You have to understand. People like nsacpi and Julio think minorities, especially black people, aren’t able to tie their own shoes without help. You expect them to be able to wake up in the morning and go vote?
Are you a racist or something?
Republican voter suppression...
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You have to understand. People like nsacpi and Julio think minorities, especially black people, aren’t able to tie their own shoes without help. You expect them to be able to wake up in the morning and go vote?
Are you a racist or something?
57Brave
Well-known member
Voting is easy, I own a car and a truck and not only do I.not have to work 2 jobs or deal with day care
my living status affords me polling locations (plural) virtually a stones throw away.
Others, many others, not so much.
So owning a car, having one job and locale access to polling stations prove to be a by design 21st century " poll tax."
This isn't hard, unless of course you are one of
those going to great lengths to impede voting for targeted groups.
Don't these legislatures have more pressing problems than too many voters?
my living status affords me polling locations (plural) virtually a stones throw away.
Others, many others, not so much.
So owning a car, having one job and locale access to polling stations prove to be a by design 21st century " poll tax."
This isn't hard, unless of course you are one of
those going to great lengths to impede voting for targeted groups.
Don't these legislatures have more pressing problems than too many voters?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
That's why they need this new voting bill.
You just want to hear who repeats your propaganda media talking points. There is a group today of black Americans who don’t subscribe to your poisonous ideology and said that the voter rights bill is not suppression. Can we listen to these black people?
McCann'sCans
Gwinnett Bound
These laws don't exclusively target black Americans. They ultimately will impact anyone who truly struggles to make ends meet- might not have flexible work, a car, or childcare. Just like poll taxes of the last century didn't exclusively target black Americans, these laws will also hurt low-income and rural white voters who may have similar challenges. Obviously, the most profound impact will be on minority communities since they face much higher rates of poverty, which we can all agree is an unfortunate reality.
At the end of the day, Republicans are creating a solution for a problem that doesn't exist so they can cut people out of the Democratic process just like the Democratic party did with poll taxes back in the day. Florida is maybe the best example of this- Desantis held a glowing press conference on November 4 to applaud the security of the election, talking about the focus on cybersecurity, the incredible transparency, and about how the turnout should inspire confidence for everyone. Then he realized that the party line was actually going to be to decry the security of the election to pass reforms and he immediately changed his tune.
At the end of the day, Republicans are creating a solution for a problem that doesn't exist so they can cut people out of the Democratic process just like the Democratic party did with poll taxes back in the day. Florida is maybe the best example of this- Desantis held a glowing press conference on November 4 to applaud the security of the election, talking about the focus on cybersecurity, the incredible transparency, and about how the turnout should inspire confidence for everyone. Then he realized that the party line was actually going to be to decry the security of the election to pass reforms and he immediately changed his tune.
I guess you missed a small detail of almost 400k votes in GA with no chain of custody records. I know. Minor issues.
Desantis is doing what a great leader does. Don’t wait for problems to happen to fix them. He and the rest of the world saw the cluster****(cheating) that took place in 2020. He is protecting his voters by ensuring that never happens to Florida.
I know it’s hard for you guys to understand that distinction so you default to CULT! Good media lapdogs we have here.
Tapate50
Well-known member
You are saying many others do not :
Have a mode of transport and are houseborn all day. Like - none at all. Not from church or public transport, or anything. They literally cannot leave, ever.
Not only does this same theoretical person stay in their house like a prison, they work two jobs with no lunch breaks or days off at all.
As if this person isn’t strapped enough, they can’t get 10 miles to a polling place once in more than two weeks. They also have kids at daycare even though they don’t own a car or have access to one at all or have access to public transport in any scenario.
I don’t see any of these as likely.
Also- you bring kids to vote. No need for daycare. It would do them some good seeing people do their civic duty.
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These people don’t exist. Just like the video that was posted a few years back asking random blacks people if they had ID or knew where polling places were.
Nobody is as racist as a leftist.
Without thee white mans help they feel minorities are helpless.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
Hahaha
57Brave
Well-known member
Tapate50
Well-known member
Still do!
McCann'sCans
Gwinnett Bound
Incredible how hard it is for some people to accept the reality that some people have worse lives than you and perhaps we should try to help them instead of just assuming they don't exist. They don't have a car, they live paycheck to paycheck and can't afford to miss an hour of work, they live in an area without good public transit or with public transit they can't afford. Yes, these people exist. As with most things, the data here isn't hard to find. You guys just won't trust it because it comes from universities or the government or polling organizations or media companies, all of which are now apparently less trustworthy than brilliant folks like Steve Bannon or Cyber Ninjas.
"All voters, regardless of vote history or frequency, report experiencing barriers to vote, including waiting in long lines and being unable to get off work.
The most common barrier is waiting in line to vote for more than an hour. Those who only vote some of the time were the most likely group to report facing this issue.
Those who rarely or never vote are more likely than other voters to say they couldn’t get off work to vote, missed the voter registration deadline, and couldn’t find or access their polling place.
Black and Hispanic voters are also more likely to report standing in line for more than an hour or being unable to get off work."
"The new data support perhaps the worst-case scenario offered by opponents of restrictive voting laws. Nine percent of black respondents and 9 percent of Hispanic respondents indicated that, in the last election, they (or someone in their household) were told that they lacked the proper identification to vote. Just 3 percent of whites said the same. Ten percent of black respondents and 11 percent of Hispanic respondents reported that they were incorrectly told that they weren’t listed on voter rolls, as opposed to 5 percent of white respondents. In all, across just about every issue identified as a common barrier to voting, black and Hispanic respondents were twice as likely, or more, to have experienced those barriers as white respondents.
The numbers suggest not only that policies such as voter-ID requirements and automatic voter purges do, indeed, have strong racial and ethnic biases, but also that there are more subtle barriers for people of color that compound the effects of these laws. Fifteen percent of black respondents and 14 percent of Hispanic respondents said that they had trouble finding polling places on Election Day, versus 5 percent of whites. This finding squares with research indicating that frequent changes to polling-site locations hurt minority voters more. Additionally, more than one in 10 blacks and Hispanics missed the registration deadline to vote in 2016, as opposed to just 3 percent of whites. And black and Hispanic respondents were twice as likely as white respondents to have been unable to get time off of work for voting."
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/resear...-state-voters-face-barriers-to-the-ballot-box
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/...-the-problem-of-purges-from-the-registration/
https://www.businessinsider.com/why...face-obstacles-to-voting-at-every-step-2020-6
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54240651
https://www.carnegie.org/topics/topic-articles/voting-rights/11-barriers-voting/
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/538-non-voter-poll-2020
https://time.com/5852837/voter-suppression-obstacles-just-america/
"All voters, regardless of vote history or frequency, report experiencing barriers to vote, including waiting in long lines and being unable to get off work.
The most common barrier is waiting in line to vote for more than an hour. Those who only vote some of the time were the most likely group to report facing this issue.
Those who rarely or never vote are more likely than other voters to say they couldn’t get off work to vote, missed the voter registration deadline, and couldn’t find or access their polling place.
Black and Hispanic voters are also more likely to report standing in line for more than an hour or being unable to get off work."
"The new data support perhaps the worst-case scenario offered by opponents of restrictive voting laws. Nine percent of black respondents and 9 percent of Hispanic respondents indicated that, in the last election, they (or someone in their household) were told that they lacked the proper identification to vote. Just 3 percent of whites said the same. Ten percent of black respondents and 11 percent of Hispanic respondents reported that they were incorrectly told that they weren’t listed on voter rolls, as opposed to 5 percent of white respondents. In all, across just about every issue identified as a common barrier to voting, black and Hispanic respondents were twice as likely, or more, to have experienced those barriers as white respondents.
The numbers suggest not only that policies such as voter-ID requirements and automatic voter purges do, indeed, have strong racial and ethnic biases, but also that there are more subtle barriers for people of color that compound the effects of these laws. Fifteen percent of black respondents and 14 percent of Hispanic respondents said that they had trouble finding polling places on Election Day, versus 5 percent of whites. This finding squares with research indicating that frequent changes to polling-site locations hurt minority voters more. Additionally, more than one in 10 blacks and Hispanics missed the registration deadline to vote in 2016, as opposed to just 3 percent of whites. And black and Hispanic respondents were twice as likely as white respondents to have been unable to get time off of work for voting."
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/resear...-state-voters-face-barriers-to-the-ballot-box
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/...-the-problem-of-purges-from-the-registration/
https://www.businessinsider.com/why...face-obstacles-to-voting-at-every-step-2020-6
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54240651
https://www.carnegie.org/topics/topic-articles/voting-rights/11-barriers-voting/
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/538-non-voter-poll-2020
https://time.com/5852837/voter-suppression-obstacles-just-america/
Maybe the left should find these people that can’t get time off from work for a two week period and can’t vote.
That would be more effective than posting participation rates by race which really don’t say what you think it says. My guess is that it’s incredibly difficult to find someone unable to vote. More likely it’s people that aren’t all that interested in voting.
That would be more effective than posting participation rates by race which really don’t say what you think it says. My guess is that it’s incredibly difficult to find someone unable to vote. More likely it’s people that aren’t all that interested in voting.
McCann'sCans
Gwinnett Bound
The studies are literally telling you how many millions of people can't vote and why, with one of the largest reasons being that they can't get time off from work.
Luckily voting takes place over weekends and starts early morning till late afternoon.
Any reasonable person is not buying the I can’t get off from work excuse.
sturg33
I
There are people who make excuses.
And there are people who figure out how to make it work.
Excuse makers are losers