Depends what they get in return. And the players that do this are few and far between. Nobody wants to been seen as a supporter of domestic violence in todays climate.
Reports: Marcell Ozuna Arrested For Domestic Battery
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Depends what they get in return. And the players that do this are few and far between. Nobody wants to been seen as a supporter of domestic violence in todays climate.
Tapate50
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I think even the players union will side with the owners here. Its a big give though. No one wants to be seen on the side of a woman beater.
rico43
<B>Director of Minor League Reports</B>
Seems like (with the few facts we know) that the biggest difference between Ozuna and Cox is that cops arrived to witness at least part of the incident. The effect, without the cause.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
truth to that
I think people were also a lot more reasonable back then. You didn’t have the same hysteria. I was a teenager but it seemed like a short news cycle on Cox and I don’t remember people talking about it too much. It was a one time thing, the injuries weren’t too bad, he apologized, and we moved on.
Yes. People did put up with wife beaters and sexual harassment back then.
Much like they put up with juicers today?
I was referring to society as a whole. It was actually more favorable to be seen as a wife beater than a juicer even in the 90s
PawPawMaxwell
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Right off the top of my head. This year Ozuna, Bauer, Dawson, the Pittsburgh (?) guy and the 13 year old girl. Any others ? MLB as a whole is a very small society and the impact of these 4 cases that come to mind will have a bearing on MLB and owners as a whole. Look at what the Floyd incident has done to a much larger police society. Imagine what will happen to attendance, advertising, overall income.
Yet it's Bonds' name at the top of the list.
The point is the league - as well as the upper management of most of the franchises - has no interest in entering any conversation about morals on any level. And that's even when the correct side to come down on in situations that are clear as day (Rose, Bonds, Bauer, Ozuna) you can hear league reps searching for cover every time they make a statement about anything. That shows just how strong the MLBPA actually is. Luckily for fans (to this point) the players don't quite grasp that just yet, although I think everyone that's worried about how the negotiations are going to go this winter are absolutely right. The fact that Bauer and Ozuna are still drawing the paychecks they're drawing just might be what finally makes them understand. When ownership isn't even able to put morals clauses that exist for almost every other employee in the country in their standard contract, they've got a problem.
I agree wholeheartedly that the league needs to let the justice system run its course before terminating players, but when a player is charged with the types of things Bauer and Ozuna have been charged with there's absolutely no reason they shouldn't have to forfeit a large percentage of their salaries (50% at a minimum) while the investigations are ongoing. It's really sad that 98% of the players will say they agree with that in public, yet those types of clauses are nowhere to be found.
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50PoundHead
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MLB contracts are guaranteed to a much greater extent than they are in other major sports. I wouldn't be surprised if the CBA negotiations provide for some sort of contract relief for a franchise in the event the player violates an agreed-upon behavior standard.
Southcack77
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The players get away with whatever they want because the younger generation of sportswriters are in the tank.
Southcack77
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Ha, if you think that was the first and only time Bobby Cox hit a woman...I'll take the well over .
Southcack77
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When their lawyers explain that it opens the door for MLB clubs to void their contracts or credibly threaten to do to force settlement based on accusations or small incidents they'll quietly say hell no.
Southcack77
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They'd probably say it wasn't true and the writers would call the owners rapists.
Yup. Plus, teams that don't can get out of that sort of contract will obviously have more money to spend on other FAs, driving up the price for everyone else. Certainly the Dodgers being able to get out of Bauer's contract would put them in a better position to bring back all of Kershaw, Scherzer, and Seagar if they wanted to (and they might anyways, but the point stands).
I’d have to assume keeping him on the IL makes things easier for the Braves at this point. They have to pay him whether he’s on admin leave or the IL.
Doesn’t administrative leave time get converted to part of the suspension if one is issued? If so we’re effectively keeping Ozuna from serving his suspension since he’s on the disabled list.