The Coronavirus, not the beer

thethe said:
You still don't get why what you posted in response to the graph/population density figures doesn't make sense.

I'll still wait on you to understand.....

Hint: CURRENT INFECTION LEVELS
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Talking to a brick wall.

Let me break it down for you slowly.

There's no way that 99% of Gibraltar can be vaccinated as is implied by the post you originally said. Because they conveniently left out the current data which I believe has that at 116%.

Ther'es no way 116% of the population can be vaccinated. Considering 20% of the population is 14 and under, which basically means cannot be vaccinated, means that it's actually impossible for that number to be reached. Which means other people, probably UK or Spanish, are getting vaccinated in the country and skewing the stats.

Second, they get a massive tourism influx. So lots of people are bringing the disease, and testing positive in the country. Which skews the numbers. By how much? It's hard to know. It seems like around 10% increase from Tourists.

Also keep in mind that it's known that you can get COVID while vaccinated. Even one of your ilk admits it. Shapiro has slid to basically telling everyone to get vaccinated and if you get sick your symptoms are mild. I believe recently he even mentioned that Masking was an incentive to anti-vaxxers. The goalposts are slowly shifting and I look forward to seeing you change your tone.
 
57Brave said:
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Alaska, ****ing it up for everyone.
 
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nsacpi said:
US intelligence agencies are digging through a treasure trove of genetic data that could be key to uncovering the origins of the coronavirus -- as soon as they can decipher it.

This giant catalog of information contains genetic blueprints drawn from virus samples studied at the lab in Wuhan, China which some officials believe may have been the source of the Covid-19 outbreak, multiple people familiar with the matter tell CNN.

It's unclear exactly how or when US intelligence agencies gained access to the information, but the machines involved in creating and processing this kind of genetic data from viruses are typically connected to external cloud-based servers -- leaving open the possibility they were hacked, sources said.

Still, translating this mountain of raw data into usable information -- which is only one part of the intelligence community's 90-day push to uncover the pandemic's origins -- presents a range of challenges, including harnessing enough computing power to process it all. To do that, intelligence agencies are relying on supercomputers at the Department of Energy's National Labs, a collection of 17 elite government research institutions.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/covid-origins-genetic-data-wuhan-lab/
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We know how this ends.

But yeah viruses don't just jump from animals to humans in a 90 day period. It takes years.
 
zitothebrave said:
Talking to a brick wall.

Let me break it down for you slowly.

There's no way that 99% of Gibraltar can be vaccinated as is implied by the post you originally said. Because they conveniently left out the current data which I believe has that at 116%.

Ther'es no way 116% of the population can be vaccinated. Considering 20% of the population is 14 and under, which basically means cannot be vaccinated, means that it's actually impossible for that number to be reached. Which means other people, probably UK or Spanish, are getting vaccinated in the country and skewing the stats.

Second, they get a massive tourism influx. So lots of people are bringing the disease, and testing positive in the country. Which skews the numbers. By how much? It's hard to know. It seems like around 10% increase from Tourists.

Also keep in mind that it's known that you can get COVID while vaccinated. Even one of your ilk admits it. Shapiro has slid to basically telling everyone to get vaccinated and if you get sick your symptoms are mild. I believe recently he even mentioned that Masking was an incentive to anti-vaxxers. The goalposts are slowly shifting and I look forward to seeing you change your tone.
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Now I think you saw why what you posted in response was nonsense but now won't admit it.

Shapiro is a traditional squishy republican. Not willing to fight the fight that needs to happen.

There is absolutely no reason for those that aren't at risk to get vaccinated. Especially people 40 and under that are healthy.

ABSOLUTELY ZERO REASON.
 
thethe said:
Everyone who is at risk should strongly consider vaccination.

I'm not sure why people post graphs like this thinking it means anything to those that have a 99.9% survival rate naturally.
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Sure. If you have to live in a hospital for a couple of weeks with several days in ICU and a couple on a ventilator before you're well, you count as surviving. You'll probably suffer long term damage, and crippling medical debt, but you count in that 99.9%.
 
Jaw said:
Sure. If you have to live in a hospital for a couple of weeks with several days in ICU and a couple on a ventilator before you're well, you count as surviving. You'll probably suffer long term damage, and crippling medical debt, but you count in that 99.9%.
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And those people that suffer this are overwhelmingly affected by co-morbidities especially obesity.

The constant fear mongering bombardment is becoming very effective on everyone.

The facts on the ground have not changed in the slightest. The same people are dying. The same people are getting sick. The same people are not even showing symptoms. Outliers change nothing.
 
sturg33 said:
Young healthy people do not need to take this vaccine.

Fatter people of all ages probably should.
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Pretty easy to me.

And now that vaccinated people are spreading and contracting the virus while vaccinated then those that aren't at risk do not need to get vaccinated.
 
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thethe said:
Now I think you saw why what you posted in response was nonsense but now won't admit it.

Shapiro is a traditional squishy republican. Not willing to fight the fight that needs to happen.

There is absolutely no reason for those that aren't at risk to get vaccinated. Especially people 40 and under that are healthy.

ABSOLUTELY ZERO REASON.
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7

"These reduced viral loads hint at a potentially lower infectiousness, further contributing to vaccine effect on virus spread."

Seriously it's common ****ing knowledge what the purpose of vaccines are for those not at risk.
 
zitothebrave said:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7

"These reduced viral loads hint at a potentially lower infectiousness, further contributing to vaccine effect on virus spread."

Seriously it's common ****ing knowledge what the purpose of vaccines are for those not at risk.
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This is from the end of March before we started seeing actual real world events. As its from the end of March that means they are getting their data from probably the first two months of the year when vaccinations started.

You need to keep up man.

This is embarrassing.
 
Jaw said:
Sure. If you have to live in a hospital for a couple of weeks with several days in ICU and a couple on a ventilator before you're well, you count as surviving. You'll probably suffer long term damage, and crippling medical debt, but you count in that 99.9%.
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thethe has no grasp on knowledge or reality. Remember the outrage of the young people having arrhythmia because of the COVID vaccine, when it was also a common symptom of getting COVID 19?

And before thethe comes in harping .

https://sports.yahoo.com/big-ten-co...-myocarditis-penn-state-doctor-164111708.html
 
zitothebrave said:
thethe has no grasp on knowledge or reality. Remember the outrage of the young people having arrhythmia because of the COVID vaccine, when it was also a common symptom of getting COVID 19?

And before thethe comes in harping .

https://sports.yahoo.com/big-ten-co...-myocarditis-penn-state-doctor-164111708.html
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Vaccination is in effect guaranteed contraction of the virus as opposed to how our natural immune systems ward off the virus from even taking hold in our body.

Therefore, the comment still applies.
 
thethe said:
This is from the end of March before we started seeing actual real world events. As its from the end of March that means they are getting their data from probably the first two months of the year when vaccinations started.

You need to keep up man.

This is embarrassing.
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Sigh.

You're just a lost cause.

Whatever you want to believe, believe. I just hope most people have enough common sense to realize you're a ****ing idiot who'll lead them to a dangerous place.
 
zitothebrave said:
Sigh.

You're just a lost cause.

Whatever you want to believe, believe. I just hope most people have enough common sense to realize you're a ****ing idiot who'll lead them to a dangerous place.
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Sigh - I've been shown why what I posted is close to irrelevant because more current events override those 'findings' (probably research funded by Big Pharma but I digress) so therefore I will bow out of the conversation and call you names.

Go back to being a trophy husband.
 
I think there's nothing more sad than reading thethe's posts.

It's essentially non-sequiturs and disinformation. Arguing than changing the argument when you can't make it anymore.

Remember this all started with Gibraltar and 99% vaccination rate.

I could dive into more stats, but they don't matter. Arguing with thethe is like trying to drill a hole in a wall with a pipe cleaner. There's no point in actually trying because you won't break through.
 
zitothebrave said:
I think there's nothing more sad than reading thethe's posts.

It's essentially non-sequiturs and disinformation. Arguing than changing the argument when you can't make it anymore.

Remember this all started with Gibraltar and 99% vaccination rate.

I could dive into more stats, but they don't matter. Arguing with thethe is like trying to drill a hole in a wall with a pipe cleaner. There's no point in actually trying because you won't break through.
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Keep posting dated statistics and pretending you knew that there were from months ago.
 
So what's the actual situation in Gibraltar?

Are they actually locking down?

What is the trend among residents on deaths per day from covid?

just askin
 
Can anyone help me understand why Sweden's 7-day average death count is currently zero?

They are only 40% vaccinated, I believe
 
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