As some here have said before, I suspect that MLB and the Braves have a coordinated response to this. When we have an announcement on his status it will likely signal that it is about to change. They will give us an update when they are ready to announce further action.
Reports: Marcell Ozuna Arrested For Domestic Battery
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I’m pretty sure the answer is no. Admin leave is paid and non-disciplinary. Suspension is unpaid and disciplinary. Also the player’s union may not agree to extend admin leave in Ozuna’s case.
There's no way this can be true.
He was never transferred to the 60-Day IL. This means he's currently taking up a roster spot that will be needed when they activate d'Arnaud Tuesday unless they don't mind DFAing Smith to make room for him. That may turn out to be the case since they don't exactly have a need to carry 3 Catchers or a lot of innings available for Catchers at Gwinnett, but I wouldn't call that making things "easier". Smith wasn't one of those veteran signings like Lucroy or Mathis - a guy who was just floating around unsigned - he cost them cash to acquire.
That's not a huge deal in the scheme of things - and AA's probably not losing any sleep over it - but Ozuna taking up a spot on the 40-Man Roster could cost them an arm they'd prefer not to lose when they have to activate Ynoa.
All of that makes it sound like they're no closer to determining when he can be suspended and removed from the 40-Man. That sucks.
Might not be as big an issue if they're going to have Ynoa make 3 more starts to get stretched out, but it sure would be nice to have that roster spot so they didn't have to make that decision. Of course the decision will have to be made earlier if Rosario is activated sooner than Huascar. With only one backup IF on the roster you've still got a roster crunch if you send Touki and Muller down when Ynoa and Anderson are activated - the only other guy with options is Santana, so if you send him down to activate Rosario you'll probably have to DFA Almonte (and Tomlin will still be in the pen) if you want to replace your 6th OF with Arcia.
The only "good" thing in all that is Almonte's probably played well enough that someone might pick up what's left of his salary if he hits the waiver wire.
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Ozuna could just be transferred to the 60 day IL at any time to free up a 40 man roster spot. He’s been on for the minimum already and if he did come back this year he’d need a rehab assignment. Easy button to push.
One problem with that is that he's already exceeded the 60 day period - while teams can move players to the 60-Day IL when they're facing extended absences (like the Dodgers just did with Kershaw and Duffy), I'm not sure whether you can put someone on it AFTER they've already been out that long. I assume you can, but if AA could just arbitrarily decide to do that, you'd assume he'd do that instead of DFAing Smith or any of the relievers.
Whatever the rules are, it's absolutely ridiculous that MLB is conducting an investigation into his situation just like they are Bauer yet Ozuna's roster spot hasn't been handled the same way - my guess is that comes from the Commissioner's Office. Any player that's being investigated but hasn't yet been suspended should be handled the same way across the board.
NYCBrave
Well-known member
I actually agree. And like I mentioned earlier in this thread, if Ozuna was not on the DL, they would have had to make decisions much faster. Ozuna being on the DL at the time of the incident only allowed MLB to take their time in looking into this.
PawPawMaxwell
Called Up to the Major Leagues
I think Ozuna and Bauer will be used as significant bargaining points in the upcoming CBA. I doubt Ozuna ever plays for Atlanta again, simply because his infractions happened in Atlanta. Now what is in play is how to terminate or shorten the cost.
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
Everyone seems to agree that Ozuna should be hung by his fingernails and doesn't deserve to live anymore, possibly firing squad, shouldn't have the privilege of playing baseball, and we certainly don't want him on our beloved Braves team.
Let me paint a different scenario.
His wife is bat**** crazy, came at him with a knife, and they were divorcing as a result of her infidelity. The permanent house is in Miami, where she lives and he's willing to give it to her along with generous support, whatever she needs. She shows up at the Atlanta house in a rage, attacks him increasingly and repeatedly. After trying to get her to leave or leaving himself, he finally lashes out right when the cops arrive and see what he's doing in retaliation. He's arrested, felony domestic violence stragulation, etc.
The DA investigates, reduces the charges against him to misdemeanors, he agrees to a million dollar fine to go to domestic abuse causes and agrees to a million hours of community service and a million hours of counseling. Receives a suspended one year sentence for each misdemeanor.
He gives the ex millions of dollars and they divorce. He doesn't have a hint of bad behavior in this or any other situation while the process is going on or after.
MLB suspends him for all of 2021 and the first quarter of 2022 season without pay, costing him $16,000,000 in compensation. He publicly apologizes to the team, fans, ownership, leadership, MLB, everyone who was hurt by his actions. He agrees to teach domestic abuse classes to MLB players for the next 30 years.
When he's not doing community service, dealing with his lawyers or paying bills, he's in the gym or the cage, working out, is in the BSOML. He works on his outfield defense daily and rehabs his arm so he can throw 85 mph. He adopts an abandoned kitten and a puppy from the shelter.
NOW do you let him have a second chance as a player on the Braves?
Let me paint a different scenario.
His wife is bat**** crazy, came at him with a knife, and they were divorcing as a result of her infidelity. The permanent house is in Miami, where she lives and he's willing to give it to her along with generous support, whatever she needs. She shows up at the Atlanta house in a rage, attacks him increasingly and repeatedly. After trying to get her to leave or leaving himself, he finally lashes out right when the cops arrive and see what he's doing in retaliation. He's arrested, felony domestic violence stragulation, etc.
The DA investigates, reduces the charges against him to misdemeanors, he agrees to a million dollar fine to go to domestic abuse causes and agrees to a million hours of community service and a million hours of counseling. Receives a suspended one year sentence for each misdemeanor.
He gives the ex millions of dollars and they divorce. He doesn't have a hint of bad behavior in this or any other situation while the process is going on or after.
MLB suspends him for all of 2021 and the first quarter of 2022 season without pay, costing him $16,000,000 in compensation. He publicly apologizes to the team, fans, ownership, leadership, MLB, everyone who was hurt by his actions. He agrees to teach domestic abuse classes to MLB players for the next 30 years.
When he's not doing community service, dealing with his lawyers or paying bills, he's in the gym or the cage, working out, is in the BSOML. He works on his outfield defense daily and rehabs his arm so he can throw 85 mph. He adopts an abandoned kitten and a puppy from the shelter.
NOW do you let him have a second chance as a player on the Braves?
He has a right to defend himself for sure in a situation like that.
PawPawMaxwell
Called Up to the Major Leagues
I am not disputing anything that you are posting Gov. IMO it all will come down to simpliy public relations. If the incident happened in the Dominican or Miami it would be a different story. The Braves cannot alienate any female ticket buyers. It is that simple. The other point I make is the unfortunate timing. Had the CBA not been coming up and the other players involved with domestic abuse being at the fore front, then Bauer comes along at the wrong time for Ozuna things might be different. But to add, IIRC this is not the first time Ozuna and his wife have made the news and was he not involved in some type of bar room incident recently. Just a bad image for MLB and a team like the Braves. Im sure that there teams out there that could downplay the entire situation.
Southcack77
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I personally doubt anyone makes ticket decisions based on criminal records like this or at least not enough anyones to make a difference.
The only real financial risk would be for activists who more likely than not would be non-fans to harass sponsorers. No really think any impact on ticket sales would be negligible compared to winning or losing games.
Dunit24
Awaiting a Promotion
Say it louder for those in the back
Ozuna was either justifiably defending himself and his wife should be facing charges, or he wasn't justifiably defending himself and he should be facing charges.
It really is that simple in my mind, and the police should be sorting that out. Once they tell the Braves what happened, Ozuna either plays, or he doesn't play anymore based on who is charged with a crime. This whole catering to the twitter mob is beyond played out by now.
It really is that simple in my mind, and the police should be sorting that out. Once they tell the Braves what happened, Ozuna either plays, or he doesn't play anymore based on who is charged with a crime. This whole catering to the twitter mob is beyond played out by now.
Freshmaker
Arbitration Eligible
Agreed - it shouldn't be *that* difficult to figure out. There's not a ton of time left on this season anyway, so just keep him on the DL the rest of this year and, if exonerated, bring him back next season. Also, DOB said that Braves employees are not allowed to discuss Ozuna at all, regardless of topic. So that's why we haven't seen anything about a rehab stint or an update otherwise
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
Of course it's rarely that clean. There's nuance. He did things he's not proud of, but she's a bonafide grade A asshole. Which frankly, is the way I read it.
I'd love a nice clean analysis but we're not going to get it.
bravesfanforlife88
Well-known member
Another woman has come forward with similar accusations against Bauer. Sounds like this one happened in the past, and when she went to final the complaint, she was arrested for underage drinking.
Also mentions that he texted her a death threat.
Also mentions that he texted her a death threat.