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zitothebrave said:
The problem with the Rs is they basically have to hope for voter suppression. Because of their religious aspect they alienate many voters. Even the religious folks don't always agree with them. I think any presidential candidate out there should not ever even bring up Abortion or *** rights. Use politician speak to get around it. Romney had a better shot of winning than McCain because McCain didn't campaign against Bush, which Obama did and Bush was hated. Romney had bad Obama. His problem was he was Mormon. I'ts really quite simple, that alone made him unelectable on the national stage. Considering how much people didn't like Obama going into the last election and really aside from the Mormon thing and the 48% thing what really did he have against him? I don't think the last one was enough to lose him the election.
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McCain is an war-happy arse.

McCain didn't campaign against Bush and more importantly didn't campaign against Obama.

Glad now he lost.

The Mormon thing played in with some for Romney. But that he was Mr. RomneyCare, made that 47percenter remark, and was just another in the Dole-McCain line of moderates did him more damage.
 
goldfly said:
look at yall debate about the "republican" party and why they didn't/don't win on the national level anymore

they are nothing more than a regional party for the most part and have to gimmick it to make sure they have enough seats in congress to make sure nothing really happens anymore

their platform is a way of the past and it is thankfully dying

dying too slow imo but whatever

it is pathetic to watch their base of so called christians grasp at straws on issues while playing the victim of religious persecution while doing everything in their power to pass laws based on their so called religious views

they can give up on the white house and you can act like it is cause they are mormon or too passive etc (i am sure some dumbass will say, cause one side just gives **** away so they don't work) but it is cause their are holding on too dying ideas and the people in the center (where elections are won) don't want to be part of the religion party (actual religion and the religion of protecting rich people) that holds the country back
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Yes, all parties who want any chance of sniffing a win must submit to the tenets of the American-moral-code, primarily: you must approved and support everything the LBGT leaders want and you must honor the holy sacrament of cutting and crushing and removing fetuses from the womb of any woman (particularly black women - don't want too many of those black kids around) whose convenience rights trump the right to life of some "parasite."
 
I thought Romney lost because he was distracted over the Dressage thingy. Didn't stay focused

romney lost because he didnt stand for things everyday people were looking for - as in anything -anything at all besides deregulation and tax breaks for those already burdened with tax break after tax break. . Same reason McCain,Santorum,Perry,gingrich,Cain,Bachmann and yes, Palin -- what do any of them stand for outside of "being" President?

" tenets of the American-moral-code..."
you're joking ---- right?
 
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It has nothing to do with submitting.

If any gop said they wouldn't be for *** marriage and not against it then they would have been fine. But instead let's make a constitutional amendment to deny it from ever happening. At least Ron Paul said leave it up to the states which still is meh. A lot of the candidates took pride in saying I want to ban it.
 
KeithLockhart said:
It has nothing to do with submitting.

If any gop said they wouldn't be for *** marriage and not against it then they would have been fine. But instead let's make a constitutional amendment to deny it from ever happening. At least Ron Paul said leave it up to the states which still is meh. A lot of the candidates took pride in saying I want to ban it.
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Baloney. It has everything to do with submitting. Or kowtowing if you prefer. Neither McCain nor Romney went balls to the walls on abortion or SSM.

Romney
 
They both said in primary debates they would defend traditional marriage (as if it was ever under attack) both have supported a ban on ssm.
 
KeithLockhart said:
They both said in primary debates they would defend traditional marriage (as if it was ever under attack) both have supported a ban on ssm.
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Of course they defend marriage. But Romney hasn't really promoted a federal ban on ssm. He wasn't making that a major plank of his campaign. He played the primary and the pledge game. But that's what it was. A game. Read the link I provided.

Romney got played - and played well - by Obama's pivot on the issue.

And McCain? When did he back a federal marriage amendment?
 
And moving forward - like gold is saying - you've got to kowtow to the LBGT crowd and take the sacrament of abortion to be viable. You should be pleased.
 
BedellBrave said:
And moving forward - like gold is saying - you've got to kowtow to the LBGT crowd and take the sacrament of abortion to be viable. You should be pleased.
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*** marriage didn't catapult Obama into victory. Once again McCain and Romney especially their running mates answered the ban *** marriage bandwagon. ron Paul was respected by ***s because he gave the state's rights answer.
 
KeithLockhart said:
*** marriage didn't catapult Obama into victory. Once again McCain and Romney especially their running mates answered the ban *** marriage bandwagon. ron Paul was respected by ***s because he gave the state's rights answer.
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***s weren't going to vote GOP anyways. Wasn't Obama anti-*** marriage at first?
 
BedellBrave said:
Yes, all parties who want any chance of sniffing a win must submit to the tenets of the American-moral-code, primarily: you must approved and support everything the LBGT leaders want and you must honor the holy sacrament of cutting and crushing and removing fetuses from the womb of any woman (particularly black women - don't want too many of those black kids around) whose convenience rights trump the right to life of some "parasite."
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i applaud you for staying the course in trying to act persecuted
 
BedellBrave said:
Worth a second posting.
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wasn't worth the first time

much less the 2nd time

i read the words of great men that say all men are created equal and at the same time owned slaves.

the quote is from 1922

thankfully a lot has changed since then
 
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