nsacpi
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Unlike you, when I claim someone said something (idiotic and otherwise), I actually quote the post.
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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Unlike you, when I claim someone said something (idiotic and otherwise), I actually quote the post.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
and if you managed to dig one up i wouldn't have the bad grace to blame the "CDC" or some other culprit of choice
but i'm pretty sure i've never claimed anything as obviously idiotic as "vaccines are very likely the cause of the variants"
nsacpi
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i dunno...i hear husbands who give their "blessings" to the wives to get vaccinated suffer from mysterious and irreversible memory loss...just sayin...something i found in the course of my internet research
sturg33
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If you're lucky one of them will breakthrough and I'll die from covid. I know. You'd be very pleased
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
unlike you i want everyone vaccinated and healthy and i even favor them voting...even the low-info high-deza © folks like you that i disagree with...stay healthy, stay alive, and vote!
acesfull86
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https://www.aier.org/article/good-medicine-requires-second-opinions/
During this pandemic, open-mindedness, self-criticism, and the gathering and synthesizing of perspectives have been actively resisted. The “official” version on lockdowns, masks, and vaccines cannot be questioned. The news and social media actively censor opinions contrary to the “official” version, calling it misinformation. Treating Covid patients with ivermectin has been made very difficult.
And now the Federation of State Medical Boards (FSMB) is setting a policy to keep doctors in line with the “official” versions of health authorities. The FSMB has stated, due “to a dramatic increase in the dissemination of COVID-19 vaccine misinformation and disinformation by physicians and other health care professionals on social media platforms, online and in the media,” strict action is needed. They warn, “Physicians who willfully generate and spread COVID-19 vaccine misinformation or disinformation are risking disciplinary action by state medical boards, including the suspension or revocation of their medical license.”
President and CEO Humayun Chaudhry of the FSMB ominously added, “I hope that physicians and other licensees get the message.”
Will the FSMB adopt a YouTube-type standard to censor the dissemination of information on vaccines? Will they label as misinformation any views “that contradicts local health authorities’” or the World Health Organization’s (WHO)?”
If a person experiences Bell’s palsy after taking the first dose of the vaccine, would it be advisable to get a second shot? Apparently, a physician who advises a patient not to get a second shot would violate official guidance. How about a teenager who experienced myocarditis after their first shot? Again, official guidance is to get the second shot. The FSMB policy puts physicians in an ethical dilemma and incentivizes self-censorship.
Are one-size-fits-all health policies consistent with what we know about biochemical individuality (explained in this essay)? Would a physician face disciplinary action for considering the patient’s age, occupation, underlying health, diet, and exercise pattern when advising on vaccination?
Israel has vaccinated 65% of the population. Is it misinformation to report the Israeli experience of dramatically falling vaccine efficacy for the Pfizer vaccine? Of Covid hospitalizations, the current Israeli experience is that “95% of the severe patients are vaccinated.” Is that misinformation because it seems to run counter to the official narrative?
Is it misinformation to present evidence to question Dr. Fauci, who now wants to deploy booster shots, initially for “at-risk” individuals?
The FSMB policy on the dissemination of Covid-19 information is censorship disguised as quality control.
During this pandemic, open-mindedness, self-criticism, and the gathering and synthesizing of perspectives have been actively resisted. The “official” version on lockdowns, masks, and vaccines cannot be questioned. The news and social media actively censor opinions contrary to the “official” version, calling it misinformation. Treating Covid patients with ivermectin has been made very difficult.
And now the Federation of State Medical Boards (FSMB) is setting a policy to keep doctors in line with the “official” versions of health authorities. The FSMB has stated, due “to a dramatic increase in the dissemination of COVID-19 vaccine misinformation and disinformation by physicians and other health care professionals on social media platforms, online and in the media,” strict action is needed. They warn, “Physicians who willfully generate and spread COVID-19 vaccine misinformation or disinformation are risking disciplinary action by state medical boards, including the suspension or revocation of their medical license.”
President and CEO Humayun Chaudhry of the FSMB ominously added, “I hope that physicians and other licensees get the message.”
Will the FSMB adopt a YouTube-type standard to censor the dissemination of information on vaccines? Will they label as misinformation any views “that contradicts local health authorities’” or the World Health Organization’s (WHO)?”
If a person experiences Bell’s palsy after taking the first dose of the vaccine, would it be advisable to get a second shot? Apparently, a physician who advises a patient not to get a second shot would violate official guidance. How about a teenager who experienced myocarditis after their first shot? Again, official guidance is to get the second shot. The FSMB policy puts physicians in an ethical dilemma and incentivizes self-censorship.
Are one-size-fits-all health policies consistent with what we know about biochemical individuality (explained in this essay)? Would a physician face disciplinary action for considering the patient’s age, occupation, underlying health, diet, and exercise pattern when advising on vaccination?
Israel has vaccinated 65% of the population. Is it misinformation to report the Israeli experience of dramatically falling vaccine efficacy for the Pfizer vaccine? Of Covid hospitalizations, the current Israeli experience is that “95% of the severe patients are vaccinated.” Is that misinformation because it seems to run counter to the official narrative?
Is it misinformation to present evidence to question Dr. Fauci, who now wants to deploy booster shots, initially for “at-risk” individuals?
The FSMB policy on the dissemination of Covid-19 information is censorship disguised as quality control.
nsacpi
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What do you think of the saga of Dr. Harvey Risch?
acesfull86
Well-known member
Googling him because I don’t know who he is…
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I'll save you a little work.
He is an MD/PhD at the Yale School of Public Health.
Has made some big claims about hydroxychroloquine.
Has accused the FDA of causing hundreds of thousands of deaths by suppressing information about hydroxychloroquine and not endorsing it.
Has written op-eds in the WSJ about the riskiness of covid vaccines.
Has spread the claim that most of new cases are in vaccinated people.
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nsacpi
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I guess I have 3 related questions.
Is Risch contributing to honest scientific debate or spreading deza?
Do the medical and scientific establishments have any sort of obligation to act when someone within their profession crosses that line?
What should they do in those cases?
Is Risch contributing to honest scientific debate or spreading deza?
Do the medical and scientific establishments have any sort of obligation to act when someone within their profession crosses that line?
What should they do in those cases?
Meanwhile the studies prove HCQ make a tremendous impact when administered early but the ‘scientific community’ can’t get off their donor highs.
You are such a tool in this respect defending your precious institutions that have failed the American people countless times.
Clown show.
You are such a tool in this respect defending your precious institutions that have failed the American people countless times.
Clown show.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I can add a couple related questions:
4) Risch has said the FDA and individual named scientists he disagrees with have blood on their hand and have caused hundreds of thousands of deaths by not adopting his views on hydroxychloroquine. Is this style of argumentation consistent with "open-mindedness, self-criticism, and the gathering and synthesizing of perspectives." I agree that the items in quotations (which come from your post) represent important values that the scientific community should adhere to. What should happen when someone from within the scientific community goes rogue, not just in the sense of touting cures with little or no evidentiary basis but also launching those types of attacks against people who disagree with him?
5) What is Yale supposed to do when a highly credentialed tenured faculty member like Risch goes full thethe in the midst of a global pandemic?
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