sturg33
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I have never had to show my papers to go to a restaurant in NYC. Can you point me to that historical precedent? Thanks in advance
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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I have never had to show my papers to go to a restaurant in NYC. Can you point me to that historical precedent? Thanks in advance
The numbers haven't changed.
THe people that are dying are mostly fat people. That doesn't make the loss any easier but it should inform society on the best steps moving forward.
For some reason that isn't happening.
The dirty little secret is that if we closed the country down for 2 months and paid everyone that couldn't work from home but said it was all conditional on exercising for 2 hours a day we would have had probably 50% of the deaths that we have right now.
nsacpi
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i have...it was an enjoyable novelty
in terms of historical precedent, you can go back to the plague or spanish flu or other episodes where disease breaks out...a lot of new policies get adopted...some of these new policies even stay in place afterward...Sweden's social safety net for example has its roots in the response to the Spanish flu
if you have interest in plague literature, i recommend for your reading pleasure Albert Camus' The Plague...it illustrates how a society adapts to something it has not seen before
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
be not afraid
sturg33
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Are you willing to at least admit that the mandates you're so enthusiastic about are substantially more broad than the historical ones you commonly use as precedent?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
No.
Much more extreme steps have been taken. Look up the story of the village of Eyam.
sturg33
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You keep conflating public school vaccines to NYC society vaccines and it is impossible to take you seriously when you can't admit the escalation
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
"The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated."
“The differences are huge,” says Thålin, although she cautions that the numbers for infections and other events analyzed for the comparisons were “small.” For instance, the higher hospitalization rate in the 32,000-person analysis was based on just eight hospitalizations in a vaccinated group and one in a previously infected group. And the 13-fold increased risk of infection in the same analysis was based on just 238 infections in the vaccinated population, less than 1.5% of the more than 16,000 people, versus 19 reinfections among a similar number of people who once had SARS-CoV-2.
Hmmmmmm. Ironic that you didn't read the article.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
My preference is the simplicity and elegance of incentives based on cold hard cash.
But I have no objections to mandates regarding dining out or flying commercial. Are those "escalations" over prior mandates. Sure. But I'm not afraid that this will lead to a permanent curtailment of our rights. The villagers of Eyam did not suffer a permanent curtailment of their rights. Some cities in this country reacted with more stringent measures to the Spanish flu. Their citizens did not suffer a lasting curtailment of their rights.
So my advice to you is simple: be not afraid.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I think this is a reasonable point. There is an added layer of administrative complexity, but we can probably have a "passport" that indicates immunity either from vaccines or prior infection.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
"unhealthy"
On the real, if you think this is real, you're a ****ing moron.
"Sheila Johnson lived the way any healthy American would, waking up at 6 to eat a dozen eggs, 36 pancakes, 40 sausages and washing it down with a gallon of maple syrup."
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
See classic example of ****ing moron.
striker42
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Perhaps it's because it's a good idea for people with natural immunity to still get vaccinated. The most protected you can be is to have had covid and then get the vaccine. Every study I've seen shows that. The more super protected people out there the better.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
"The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated."
Remember 2 doses is the recommendation.
