sturg33
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Weird move during a pandemic. Must not need as many health staff as we thought.
Or maybe this isn't about health
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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Weird move during a pandemic. Must not need as many health staff as we thought.
Or maybe this isn't about health
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Congrats to Katalin Kariko and Drew Weisman on winning the 2021 Lasker Awards
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/health/lasker-awards-covid-vaccine.html
Katalin Kariko, a senior vice president at BioNTech, and Dr. Drew Weissman, a professor in vaccine research at the University of Pennsylvania’s Perelman School of Medicine, shared this year’s Lasker-DeBakey Clinical Medical Research Award.
In retrospect, their 2005 breakthrough was apparent when Dr. Kariko and Dr. Weissman proudly published a surprising finding they had made about messenger RNA, also known as mRNA, which provides instructions to cells to make proteins. The scientists noticed that when they added mRNA to cells, the cells instantly destroyed it. But they could prevent that destruction by slightly modifying the mRNA. When they added the altered mRNA to cells, it could briefly prompt cells to make any protein they chose.
But at the time most scientists were uninterested in the technology, which was to become a keystone of mRNA vaccines, because they thought there were better ways to immunize.
Their paper, published in Immunity in 2005 after multiple rejections by other journals, got little attention. The discovery seemed esoteric.
Dr. Weissman and Dr. Kariko wrote grants to continue their work. Their applications were rejected. Eventually, two biotech companies took notice of the work: Moderna, in the United States, and BioNTech, in Germany. The companies studied the use of mRNA vaccines for flu, cytomegalovirus and other illnesses, but none moved out of clinical trials for years.
Dr. Kariko said in an interview this week that, for her, the greatest reward is having played a part in developing a vaccine that saved so many lives.
“For me it is enough to know that I contributed, to know that so many people were helped,” she said.
Dr. Weissman stressed in an interview this week that although he and Dr. Kariko are being honored, the work leading up to the mRNA vaccines involved more than just modifying mRNA.
“People should know that this wasn’t just a one-off experiment that we did and the vaccine was made in 10 months,” he said. “We did the modified mRNA and we are getting the honors, but the vaccines are based on 20-plus years of work by Kati and I and work by hundreds if not thousands of other scientists.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/health/lasker-awards-covid-vaccine.html
Katalin Kariko, a senior vice president at BioNTech, and Dr. Drew Weissman, a professor in vaccine research at the University of Pennsylvania’s Perelman School of Medicine, shared this year’s Lasker-DeBakey Clinical Medical Research Award.
In retrospect, their 2005 breakthrough was apparent when Dr. Kariko and Dr. Weissman proudly published a surprising finding they had made about messenger RNA, also known as mRNA, which provides instructions to cells to make proteins. The scientists noticed that when they added mRNA to cells, the cells instantly destroyed it. But they could prevent that destruction by slightly modifying the mRNA. When they added the altered mRNA to cells, it could briefly prompt cells to make any protein they chose.
But at the time most scientists were uninterested in the technology, which was to become a keystone of mRNA vaccines, because they thought there were better ways to immunize.
Their paper, published in Immunity in 2005 after multiple rejections by other journals, got little attention. The discovery seemed esoteric.
Dr. Weissman and Dr. Kariko wrote grants to continue their work. Their applications were rejected. Eventually, two biotech companies took notice of the work: Moderna, in the United States, and BioNTech, in Germany. The companies studied the use of mRNA vaccines for flu, cytomegalovirus and other illnesses, but none moved out of clinical trials for years.
Dr. Kariko said in an interview this week that, for her, the greatest reward is having played a part in developing a vaccine that saved so many lives.
“For me it is enough to know that I contributed, to know that so many people were helped,” she said.
Dr. Weissman stressed in an interview this week that although he and Dr. Kariko are being honored, the work leading up to the mRNA vaccines involved more than just modifying mRNA.
“People should know that this wasn’t just a one-off experiment that we did and the vaccine was made in 10 months,” he said. “We did the modified mRNA and we are getting the honors, but the vaccines are based on 20-plus years of work by Kati and I and work by hundreds if not thousands of other scientists.”
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Hopefully someone will explain to them that it doesn't hurt and will help to save lives.
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sturg33
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They can be glad their miracle innovation is now being used as a tool for mass firings and liberty loss for millions of people
sturg33
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Hopefully someone will explain to them that it doesn't hurt and will help to save lives.
The my body my choice clowns can never be respected again
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
Dude, you so showed them!!
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
another truly valiant effort at natural immunity
57Brave
Well-known member
but that is kinda the point. At some point it is no longer your body your choice it is "my" body your choice.
How do you feel about smokers ?
2nd hand smoke?
ever known anyone that died from lung cancer yet never smoked tobacco once in their lives?
Ever had anyone blow smoke in your face to shallowly play alpha?
early in pandemic when there was only outdoor dining we went to
a place where we were seated a table and a space away from the unmasked. There was one guy at that table that made a point of coughing in our direction and laughing (owning the libs laughing). Under peer pressure his table mates joined in the laughter.
Was that you ? Being either the cougher or the one subject to peer pressure ?
Dont give that tired BS or paid for graphs and data proving masks dont work. The same genre of graphs and data were posted in the 60-70s over the dangers of smoking. Paid for by tobacco industry
The same genre graphs and data posted in the 2000's over the effect of fossil fuels on the environment. Paid for by the fossil fuel industry.
Except this time they are paid for my donors to propagate the "hoax" -- which like tobacco and fossil fuel one by one even they dont believe what they are paid to say
It isnt like this is the first time we have seen this PR campaign
You can look all of that up
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sturg33
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Wow that's an interesting abd very compelling point you are making
The same people toe the establishment line ALL THE TIME
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
It's amazing how well they've been weaponized by misinformation and peer pressure. You still have some who can be disagreed with rationally. MQT is a great example. He and I are on opposite sides of plenty of issues, but he's still principled and not part of the authoritarian movement that so many have embraced. He's someone you can have a civil conversation without being labeled with the pejorative du jour. That's become disappointingly rare.
The thing that has surprised me that most is that as the lies and misrepresentations have been exposed instead of have that 'ah hah' moment its done the exact opposite where people have become more radicalized and believe the same lies more and more.
There is just no justifying that aside from mental illness.