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Krgrecw

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****s about to get real nasty. This is going to end sad. The Pro-Russian gov't vs the pro-western people.

Curious to see what happens if the Ukraine gov't starts to fall. Would Putin have the balls to send in help and if so would the West intervene? I would hope.
 
I am currently traveling in Eastern Europe. I really wanted to go to the Ukraine, and even have a cheap ticket booked into Kiev (my main goal was to make it to Chernobyl), but at this point don't believe I would feel particularly safe in the city. Was in Athens and Spain for their rioting last fall, Athens being particularly insane, but bloodlust seems to be on the menu in Kiev.
 
Isn't it kind of interesting that none of the major news websites have any coverage of this whatsover?

I go on the frontpage and read the headlines of:

cnn.com = Justin Beiber arrested on DUI
foxnews.com = NSA watchdog wants end to wiretapping
USAToday = Income Inequality.

Ukraine's government is about to collapse, and your average person wouldn't know it here. When Egypt was being overthrown, it was covered 24/7.
 
Krgrecw said:
Loves of updated news and a livestream here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1vwshh/ukraine_revolt_livestream_sticky_post/

Vitali Klitschko, WBC heavyweight champion and leader of a political group which is protesting, got sprayed in the face with a fire extinguisher. I bet that dude ran
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Thanks for posting the reddit link. I'm a techno-crip and while I'd heard of reddit, I didn't really realize how valuable it is. Thanks again.

Edit: Here are couple of recent links from The New York Review of Books.

Link #1 (Article from January 9, 2014 issue): http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/jan/09/fighting-soul-ukraine/?insrc=toc

Link #2 (Blog post from January 18): http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/jan/18/ukraine-new-dictatorship/?insrc=wbll
 
Yeah 50, I finally gave reddit a serious look a few weeks back and feel in love with it. Probably the best site on the 'net. They have sub forums for everything.
 
The thing that is interesting here is that the protesters have basically told the protest leaders who agreed to a truce, "We don't want no stinkin' truce."

Reminds me of an anecdote. There was a coup in a third world country where the most widely-recognized leader of the coup was agitating both within the country and internationally for the overthrow of the government. All the major news outlets featured this individual in their coverage. The coup was successful and within a month, the supposed leader was sentenced to a prison term by the government that emerged from the coup. On his way to prison, a journalist asked, "Weren''t you the leader of the coup?" to which the soon-to-be-imprisoned former leader replied "I guess the coup I was leading isn't the coup that won."

This is going to get messy. I think Putin has to let them go. If he gets crosswise with Ukraine, the oil won't flow and the Russian economy will take a big hit. I don't think he could effectively control Ukraine by force.
 
I don't believe the protestors can accept a truce. There's no guarantee the government will hold on to what they agree to. I wouldn't stop until the president(?) steps down.
 
Krgrecw said:
I don't believe the protestors can accept a truce. There's no guarantee the government will hold on to what they agree to. I wouldn't stop until the president(?) steps down.
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Likely true, but it sure puts the protest leaders in an uncomfortable spot. They'll be viewed as traitors.
 
We are effed. Here comes another world war. I wonder where China stands with the Russians now.
 
thethe said:
We are effed. Here comes another world war. I wonder where China stands with the Russians now.
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Obamas a pussy. He already gave up the missile sites in Europe to appease Putin. Do I think he's going to suddenly react to this? Nope. He should though.
 
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