Um, how is this not true? What questions are there?
Zimmerman Trial
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Um, how is this not true? What questions are there?
zitothebrave
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The thing is that the one witness kept changing his story, the cops could have took the time to attempt to entrap him in his own story because he clearly couldn't keep his story straight.
Sadly Zimmerman won't need a job for 30 years, people will make sure of it by essentially giving him money cause they're racist or rabidly pro-gun.
zitothebrave
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Tons of questions. How initiated the fight, was Zimmerman actually in danger, and so on so forth. Basically everything that happened from when he hung with with 911 to when the cops showed up is pretty much in question.
zitothebrave
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BTW this is my favorite thing about the Stand Your Ground Law
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/
If she killed her abusive husband, she would be free. How effing ridiculous.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/
If she killed her abusive husband, she would be free. How effing ridiculous.
The witness that kept changing her story was the prosecution witness that was on the phone with Martin when the altercation started.
When did John Good (the witness that testified to Martin on top of Zimmerman doing ground and pound change his story?
When did John Good (the witness that testified to Martin on top of Zimmerman doing ground and pound change his story?
And how would a "more thorough" police investigation answer these questions? There were no eye witnesses to the intial altercation. Are they miracle workers? There was a witness that described Martin on top of Zimmerman pummeling him. How much more do you need than that?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I'm talking about Zimmerman. He should have been interviewed several times to see how many times his story would change off of the known facts. Love how he pretty much lied about everything he said to the dispatcher adn they said to him.
I wouldn't be too sure of that. The reason she was convicted was bc she had the opportunity to leave the house, but instead grabbed a gun and returned to the house. Not saying it's right or wrong, but you like to diss other comparisons, yet bring up another one that has no relevance.
He was interviewed several times, what are you talking about?
What did he lie about? Specifics, please.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
If she killed him it would have been his word vs hers and he'd have been dead.Zimmerman had an opportunity not to get into a situation where he wouldn't have used his gun, which is the issue with Stand Your Ground.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
The 911 operator telling him to get out of the car is kind of a big one. Watch the reenactment read the 911 tape, the inconsistencies are massive.
Im waiting for your specifics. You know "he lied about everything he said to the dispatcher adn they said to him"
What other inconsistencies?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Cool context bro.
Let's see
He pretty much got everything the 911 operator said was wrong, getting out of the car, the 911 operator asking for an address (that conversation ended after the clubhouse mention) claims that Martin was crying on the ground and struggling and so on, but listen to the 911 calls after the shot was fired, no screams were heard.
Not to mention he lied in his bond hearing, maybe Zimmerman is a pathological liar.
Getting it wrong is lying? I know I often forget the exact thibgs people say relat8vely quickly.
You are just saying he is lying without ever showing he lied. Lying implies intent to deceive. How can you prove that witht the facts at hand?
Or maybe he don't remember everything word for word because of all that went on that night. I would say when someone get this **** beat of them it may make things a little fuzzy when trying to remember every detail.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Some more
He couldn't remember what street he was on, when his complex has like 3 streets?
Said Martin circled his vehicle and he talked about it to dispatcher, and he didn't.
Not to mention to expound on my earlier screaming point, he claims to have gotten on top of Martin and restrained and spread him out flipped over, but Martin was found face down with his arms under him.
I'm not saying they prove Zimmerman guilty. But more grilling could have created him talking himself into a corner.
He couldn't remember what street he was on, when his complex has like 3 streets?
Said Martin circled his vehicle and he talked about it to dispatcher, and he didn't.
Not to mention to expound on my earlier screaming point, he claims to have gotten on top of Martin and restrained and spread him out flipped over, but Martin was found face down with his arms under him.
I'm not saying they prove Zimmerman guilty. But more grilling could have created him talking himself into a corner.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
His story he told cops in the walkthrough make him out to be a victim, truth is that he was at fault as well in these events. His walkthrough where he thinks Martin was armed and he tried to restrain him after shooting him, but he also claimed Martin reached for Zimmerman's gun (which somehow he got to faster like Quickdraw McGraw)
Don't get me wrong, not enough to convict him, BUT my point that the police didn't do their job has yet to be disproved.
So your point is? That is the reason he didn't take the stand. Smart move. The prosecutor would have made him look bad regardless of him being guilty or not.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
He would have looked bad cause he wasn't tellign the truth, whether intentionally or not. He was making stuff up to make himself seem more innocent.