Spring Training Gamethread/Discussion

4.5 FIP is not something to be happy about. From my fifth starter I'd want something in the low 4s or better.

I agree with the need to keep Wood's innings to 180 or less. But I don't think Garcia is the best choice for starting when Wood is given some time in the pen. I would put both Floyd and Hale ahead of Garcia for that task.

I have no clue but what was the average FIP for fifth starters last year?
 
I have no clue but what was the average FIP for fifth starters last year?

Hard to really find out. There were 139 starters in 2013 that pitched at least 100 innings. Only 21 pitches had a 4.5 FIP or worse. So yeah that is on the bad end these days. I think the average FIP for starters last year was in the 3.95 range. I don't think Garcia would kill the team but there are likely better options. The Braves did survive 150 innings of Malhom and his 4.24 FIP last year. I don't think Garcia for two months as the 5th starter would be horrible since you can skip him every so often.
 
Hard to really find out. There were 139 starters in 2013 that pitched at least 100 innings. Only 21 pitches had a 4.5 FIP or worse. So yeah that is on the bad end these days. I think the average FIP for starters last year was in the 3.95 range. I don't think Garcia would kill the team but there are likely better options. The Braves did survive 150 innings of Malhom and his 4.24 FIP last year. I don't think Garcia for two months as the 5th starter would be horrible since you can skip him every so often.

Yeah, I'd imgaine that number is hard to quantify but since the fifth starter role is a revolving door for a lot of teams I'd bet that 4.5 FIP is a decent barometer to use.
 
Hard to really find out. There were 139 starters in 2013 that pitched at least 100 innings. Only 21 pitches had a 4.5 FIP or worse. So yeah that is on the bad end these days. I think the average FIP for starters last year was in the 3.95 range. I don't think Garcia would kill the team but there are likely better options. The Braves did survive 150 innings of Malhom and his 4.24 FIP last year. I don't think Garcia for two months as the 5th starter would be horrible since you can skip him every so often.

This is why 4.5 would be terrible, and it is sad that some are hoping Garcia can even manage that.
 
Team is gonna be really bad this year. Garcia. Dogmeat. Black holes in the outfield and second.
 
LaStella walks against a lefty. Why wouldn't we want this guy to be our starting second baseman again?
 
LaStella walks against a lefty. Why wouldn't we want this guy to be our starting second baseman again?

I think most people wanted Uggla traded. Since he wasn't, give him another month or two and bring Stella up once he's cheaper. If Uggla performed well, trade him for whatever. If he didn't, release him and hope to save the minimum when another team takes a chance.
 
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