GDT 10/29/21: Braves vs Astros - World Series Game 3

Southcack77 said:
I am sympathetic to rules aimed at reducing the shift I guess, but had no idea that writers were so deranged about starting pitchers getting yanked early.

Rosenthal is basically in tears and suggests eventually getting to 11 man pitching staffs?
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Yeah, that was a weird-ass column. Rosenthal's fundamentally a pretty reasonable guy, so it's odd that this would drive him to such histrionics.
 
bravesnumberone said:
I’m still amazed at how stupid AROD is for suggesting the Braves sacrificed the series in their effort to lock down Game 3.
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It’s bizarre. Each of the key relievers went 1 inning and did not throw many pitches. Winning last night’s game is the equivalent of being up a million runs in tonight’s game because we get to bank that win. Now we have the luxury of holding them back tonight if the game gets out of hand one way or the other.

The whole idea is to use your best pitchers in the highest leverage moments. There likely won’t be a better moment to use our four studs than 1-0.
 
thewupk said:
I'm curious how much of the playoff revenue liberty media will give the Braves for payroll.
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I think I read somewhere that the way the LM/Braves relationship is now, the team keeps a much larger chunk. That's why they had to build the Battery in the first place. The double edged sword is that the team has to draw well every year, or payroll could be effected. Affected? I can never remember which one is right.
 
Matzek pitch count in the post-season

10/8 19
10/9 26
10/11 19
10/12 15
10/16 16
10/17 21
10/19 14
10/20 14
10/23 17
10/26 20
10/29 15

I don't see anything excessive. Snit has been saving him for crunch time.
 
MadduxFanII said:
Yeah, that was a weird-ass column. Rosenthal's fundamentally a pretty reasonable guy, so it's odd that this would drive him to such histrionics.
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“Nameless relief pitchers”

Tyler Matzek has been the star of the post season and is probably the most recognizable pitcher on the Braves staff outside of Morton and Fried.

What a bizarre article.
 
Minter pitch counts

10/12 15
10/17 19
10/19 16
10/20 22
10/23 26
10/26 43
10/29 17

Again we see brilliant strategery from Snit in his usage of Minty Hippo.
 
What’s ironic is it was the famously traditional Kansas City Royals and Bobby Cox acolyte Ned Yost who really started this relief pitching postseason usage trend.
 
nsacpi said:
Matzek pitch count in the post-season

10/8 19
10/9 26
10/11 19
10/12 15
10/16 16
10/17 21
10/19 14
10/20 14
10/23 17
10/26 20
10/29 15

I don't see anything excessive. Snit has been saving him for crunch time.
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And throwing 20 pitches a day is nothing like throwing five innings. If anything, just keeps them sharp. That really isn’t enough pitches to wear down a pitcher (unless you did this for two straight months).
 
Snit played the BP almost perfectly last night. He needed to win the game that was available to win now, not play for the possibility of winning the next game. For all we know, one of these offenses could score 7 runs in the first 3 innings and then it doesn’t matter who pitches.

This Was exactly how I’ve been begging snit to manage all year. The fact it worked out in this game doesn’t make it right…it’s always been the right call.

We could argue that Snit should have given Joc a swing instead of Adrianza since that was the last time the 9th spot was guaranteed to bat, but that’s pretty nit picky
 
My hot take, it is a must to win 2 games at home. If the Braves get a lead tonight, Snit HAS to use Minter, Matzek, and Smith to close. Can't expect to win six and seven on the road.
 
Enscheff said:
Snit played the BP almost perfectly last night. He needed to win the game that was available to win now, not play for the possibility of winning the next game. For all we know, one of these offenses could score 7 runs in the first 3 innings and then it doesn’t matter who pitches.

This Was exactly how I’ve been begging snit to manage all year. The fact it worked out in this game doesn’t make it right…it’s always been the right call.

We could argue that Snit should have given Joc a swing instead of Adrianza since that was the last time the 9th spot was guaranteed to bat, but that’s pretty nit picky
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The reason I wouldn't use the pen in the regular season like we did last night is that it would be tough to sustain over 162 games. But the way Snit handled the staff last night was 100% how you do it to maximize winning an individual game which was exactly what he needed to do.

We now no longer need to worry about saving our pen. At the end of the series we need to have squeezed everything we can out of it.
 
I was fundamentally OK with pulling Anderson because it's not like he was pitching that well. He did a good job avoiding hard contact and pitching around his walks, but his command wasn't sharp, and he wasn't particularly dominant. It was a redoubtable performance, considering the situation, but it wasn't like yanking a dominant Blake Snell in the elimination game of a World Series.
 
The fact the Braves also got to send a real hitter to the plate rather than Anderson in a very close game is also a nontrivial advantage.
 
Was better to pull him in a close game than to see him get 1 out and load the bases. He was lucky to not give up runs, because he was lucky is not a good reason to push it.
 
Nerfherders said:
I'm not worried about over-usage for the series, but I am a little bit worried about those guys, particularly Matzek, down the line. Bumgarner was never the same after his WS heroics.

But the team can't worry about that right now. All hands on deck! Win this thing!
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Bumgarner went 33-18 the next 2 years with a 2.8 ERA….including a complete game 4 hit shut out in the NLDS. He had some injury issues in 18-19 unrelated to WS heroics. Not sure I’d say he was never the same, and his downfall was a broken finger in spring training and not having training wheels on his dirt bike, not his usage in that WS.
 
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