School Choice - It's Time
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acesfull86
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https://www.yaf.org/news/publishing-company-defends-textbook-comparison-of-voter-id-to-jim-crow/
A Sage Publishing textbook titled The Logic of American Politics Tenth Edition by Samuel H. Kernell, Gary C. Jacobson, Thad Kousser, Lynn Vavreck, and Timothy R. Johnson came with pre-made tests, one of which included the following question:
“Like the literacy tests and poll taxes of the Jim Crow era, you should oppose modern picture ID requirements to vote because such requirements are put in place ______.”
The correct answer listed was “to raise the costs of voting for racial and ethnic minorities.”
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Outdated textbook. In 2021, we decided showing papers to engage in the most basic activities of society was not only OK, but essential for safety.
A Sage Publishing textbook titled The Logic of American Politics Tenth Edition by Samuel H. Kernell, Gary C. Jacobson, Thad Kousser, Lynn Vavreck, and Timothy R. Johnson came with pre-made tests, one of which included the following question:
“Like the literacy tests and poll taxes of the Jim Crow era, you should oppose modern picture ID requirements to vote because such requirements are put in place ______.”
The correct answer listed was “to raise the costs of voting for racial and ethnic minorities.”
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Outdated textbook. In 2021, we decided showing papers to engage in the most basic activities of society was not only OK, but essential for safety.
acesfull86
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https://reason.com/2021/11/18/study-school-choice-programs-save-states-money/
More than 18 months into a pandemic that has upended school districts across the country, parents increasingly support alternatives to the traditional top-down public school system. But school choice doesn't just offer more options to families—a new study suggests that it has benefits for states too.
EdChoice, a nonprofit that supports school choice, released the study this month. It found that among 40 different tuition-grant and tax-credit programs nationwide, there was a cumulative net savings from 2011 to 2018 of between $12 billion and $28 billion. Much of the savings stem from the cost difference: In some cases, the cost of traditional public schooling is nearly triple what would be spent on private schools.
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Better outcomes, more freedom, and lower cost.
More than 18 months into a pandemic that has upended school districts across the country, parents increasingly support alternatives to the traditional top-down public school system. But school choice doesn't just offer more options to families—a new study suggests that it has benefits for states too.
EdChoice, a nonprofit that supports school choice, released the study this month. It found that among 40 different tuition-grant and tax-credit programs nationwide, there was a cumulative net savings from 2011 to 2018 of between $12 billion and $28 billion. Much of the savings stem from the cost difference: In some cases, the cost of traditional public schooling is nearly triple what would be spent on private schools.
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Better outcomes, more freedom, and lower cost.
sturg33
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Which party do you suppose would oppose these?
acesfull86
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Well it’s empowering people to make their own decisions and it’s a new system replacing an old, traditional way of doing things, so I’d assume the party that refers to itself as “liberals” or “progressives” supports it, no?
sturg33
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Great point.
Oklahomahawk
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OK, without trying to start a flame war, can you each of you tell me what you do for a living? What is your profession, etc.? Just the basics, no need to go into depth.
Sounds like the frequent setup of "You aren't teachers so you don't know whats best for education...."
Oklahomahawk
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No, not at all, but I guess that makes as much sense as "anyone but a teacher knows what's best for education".
I seem to remember that you work in the financial neck of the woods though I don't recall the specifics. So, tell me more.
sturg33
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What does that have to do with school choice?
Oklahomahawk
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Just trying to establish some baselines. You still work/live deepinthehearta ?
FP&A / Global Consolidations / SEC Reporting / System Integration
Those are my main verticals.
Oklahomahawk
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So, the financial industry, stock market, domestic and foreign concerns, and the legalities involved with all that stuff? Cool.
By the way, before we go any further, I absolutely agree that our public school system needs some serious attention. I teach at a community college and have for the past 22 years. I definitely know that our public schools aren't preparing our young people for college or anything else for that matter. I'm consistently amazed that some of my students can find their way to school every day, let alone do what they're supposed to after they get there.
Is this a decent start?
No legal. Would never want to touch that.
Not directly involved with the stock market just reporting that goes to the SEC.
I love system integration and relational databases. Learning more and more coding every day.
The whole concept of schooling as we know it today is nonsense. Half the stuff being taught is useless and the other half isn't effective because the overall aptitude of teachers these days leaves a lot to be desired.
I've long wanted privatization of schooling. Let parents decide who teaches their kids and what is taught to them.
Schools also need to start offering financial literacy training and early. Accounting should be taught to kids in high school at the latest.
Oklahomahawk
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Fair enough so far? Your turn.
Oklahomahawk
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That sounds interesting, though I guess the interesting level of any kind of insurance might have a fairly low ceiling to me. lol.
How good are the schools in your area? If memory serves you live in GA now? Formerly from the Mexico Beach, FL area? Again my memory ain't what it used to be and it used to be a little shaky.
From my personal experience I always considered the safety factor in my kids' schools the #1 factor and the quality of their education a close 2nd.
Thoughts?
See above
Tapate50
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Our schools for the Most part are awful and not safe at all. Kids come out woefully unprepared and school is viewed by most families as a day care service with zero emphasis on education or accountability.
We have one elementary school worth a damn in our neighborhood so we use it because it’s nothing but private options from here on out in the 15k a year range per kid. Both of mine are in the gifted program, but that’s still sub par
We have one elementary school worth a damn in our neighborhood so we use it because it’s nothing but private options from here on out in the 15k a year range per kid. Both of mine are in the gifted program, but that’s still sub par