The Coronavirus, not the beer

msstate7 said:
This is a big blow to vaccines, right? It was supposed to be effective against all but omnicron
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I still don't understand the argument that vaccines even prevent serious illness or death. I mean - I've parroted that line too... but the facts are more people have died this year than in 2020... despite the majority of population getting the vaccine... the math just doesn't work

(yes, I'm aware that their answer for everything is delta)
 
msstate7 said:
This is a big blow to vaccines, right? It was supposed to be effective against all but omnicron
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To be fair, the mutations themselves would be just as big a blow. If it doesn’t stop the spread of COVID then it doesn’t really matter why.
 
sturg33 said:
I still don't understand the argument that vaccines even prevent serious illness or death. I mean - I've parroted that line too... but the facts are more people have died this year than in 2020... despite the majority of population getting the vaccine... the math just doesn't work

(yes, I'm aware that their answer for everything is delta)
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Its a fair question.

The split on who is dying is completely unreliable.

Whats probably happening is that people are dying past their efficacy windows and are being marked as unvaccinated.
 
How can you be so stupid as to continue to go along with this stuff.

Countless amounts of damage was done pursuing restrictions as a diversion for pushing political obedience.
 
sturg33 said:
I still don't understand the argument that vaccines even prevent serious illness or death. I mean - I've parroted that line too... but the facts are more people have died this year than in 2020... despite the majority of population getting the vaccine... the math just doesn't work

(yes, I'm aware that their answer for everything is delta)
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Not sure how you account for the statistics regarding vaccinations and mortality rates, though. Like I said recently, I’m willing to accept that changes in transmission rates should prompt us to challenge the necessity of vaccines, but I don’t see the data that suggests it doesn’t help with getting extremely sick.
 
mqt said:
Not sure how you account for the statistics regarding vaccinations and mortality rates, though. Like I said recently, I’m willing to accept that changes in transmission rates should prompt us to challenge the necessity of vaccines, but I don’t see the data that suggests it doesn’t help with getting extremely sick.
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Data has a funny way of changing recently. Do we know the real data and why should we put our faith in the accuracy of whats being reported currently?
 
Did the CDC basically just admit what the conspiracy theorists have been saying for over a year?

PCR tests can't differentiate between the Flu and COVID?
 
thethe said:
Data has a funny way of changing recently. Do we know the real data and why should we put our faith in the accuracy of whats being reported currently?
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I can’t provide a rebuttal to that, except to say that I think there’d be too much pressure from other interests for a full blown global coverup to be more likely than the numbers being correct. That isn’t to even say the prevailing wisdom can’t be wrong, but just that it’s a better gamble to me that they’re not willfully changing the numbers across the world.
 
mqt said:
I can’t provide a rebuttal to that, except to say that I think there’d be too much pressure from other interests for a full blown global coverup to be more likely than the numbers being correct. That isn’t to even say the prevailing wisdom can’t be wrong, but just that it’s a better gamble to me that they’re not willfully changing the numbers across the world.
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I think what we are seeing is that the 'Global Health Infrastructure' seems to be incredibly synchronized all while dismissing thousands of trained physicians with their own testimonials while actually treating patients.

The hospitals and labs are more and more consolidated and thats where the bulk of the data is coming from.
 
They had to change the rules as soon as all their friends starting testing positive.

No regard for the damage that was previously done

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mqt said:
I can’t provide a rebuttal to that, except to say that I think there’d be too much pressure from other interests for a full blown global coverup to be more likely than the numbers being correct. That isn’t to even say the prevailing wisdom can’t be wrong, but just that it’s a better gamble to me that they’re not willfully changing the numbers across the world.
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Our local ER and ICU nurses are saying the stats are hogwash.
 
sturg33 said:
They had to change the rules as soon as all their friends starting testing positive.

No regard for the damage that was previously done

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LIterally the sane position since early April 2020 when the data from Italy/France/Spain/etc... was being reviewed and validated.
 
sturg33 said:
lolololol

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