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I feel like a broken record here, but I also agree on this point. It bothers me deeply when someone throws around terms like race traitor, because being a Democrat or specifically adhering to a certain political or social view isn’t and shouldn’t be considered a core part of someone’s racial identity. It is absolutely okay (and I’d argue societally good) for people of all groups to hold different views from each other.
I largely agree, and I think it cuts both ways. There are plenty of people out there on the opposite side of the spectrum that are guilty of the same presumptions. It just manifests in different opinions or reactions. You can find it amongst people who might genuinely mean no harm, as well. Stereotyping is bad, regardless of intent or consequence.
I disagree with Steele on a fair bit of the article, even if I see some solid points. I think there are some ways in which Steele is willfully misrepresenting what others consider to be systemic racism because it’s an easier argument to make if you disregard subconscious biases and impacts of prior explicit racism.
In case any one thinks to ask: yes, I know who Shelby Steele is and am not discounting his personal experience as a black man in America. I think people of all races have the ability to create misleading arguments to advance their points.
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I saw a really interesting reddit post recently... I wish I could find it.
But the gist of it was... in the 90s and 200s... race just wasn't a big thing to fight about... there were great movies with minorities that didn't feel forced... will smith was highest paid actor... It wasn't a topic of conversation in news media, etc.
Then occupy Wall Street happened.
And it has been a constant focus since
But the gist of it was... in the 90s and 200s... race just wasn't a big thing to fight about... there were great movies with minorities that didn't feel forced... will smith was highest paid actor... It wasn't a topic of conversation in news media, etc.
Then occupy Wall Street happened.
And it has been a constant focus since
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
That's interesting. In my mind it started after the Obergefell decision, seemed like the war wagons had to be diverted to another target once that one was out of the game.
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It stuck out to me because - in unison - corporations went full woke. I remember idiots like goldy posting every corporate "Statement" about the MLB all star game "Jim Crow" nonsense
And the people's attention are not focused on corporations anymore... they are focused on dividing ourselves. Hell, racial leftists are constantly defending corps now bc they share the same religion. The occupy democrats page is a full on corporate endorsement these days
57Brave
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another endorsement for CRT
57Brave
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and yet another endorsement for teaching Critical Race Theory in schools
How can people not understand the significance ?
Easy, they are uneducated. They don't know
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/sports/baseball/jackie-robinson-birth-marker.html
How can people not understand the significance ?
Easy, they are uneducated. They don't know
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/sports/baseball/jackie-robinson-birth-marker.html
Because as a civilized nation we are supposed to combat racism. Wouldn’t you agree?
acesfull86
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https://reason.com/2022/02/01/black-lives-matter-funding-millions-patrisse-cullors/
Who is currently in charge of BLM? No one, it seems, has any idea. The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation is, as far as anyone can tell, leaderless. The founders are no longer involved, and the people they supposedly installed to succeed them never actually took the job.
That's all according to a series of bombshell reports in both left and right media. At the very least, they should give anyone who is considering donating to BLM serious pause.
Listeners with good memories will recall that last year, BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors came under fire for purchasing several million-dollar homes at the exact time the George Floyd protests were underway.
In a statement, BLM said that all of this was on the up and up: "Patrisse Cullors is the Executive Director of Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation (BLMGNF). She serves in this role in a volunteer capacity and does not receive a salary or benefits. Patrisse has received a total of $120,000 since the organization's inception in 2013, for duties such as serving as spokesperson and engaging in political education work. Patrisse did not receive any compensation after 2019."
And that very well might be the case. Cullors has many sources of income: book deals, speaking gigs, a media production arrangement. She's a celebrity activist, and that lifestyle can pay. Nevertheless, after the fallout from that story, Cullors resigned as president of BLMGNF.
In May 2021, she announced that her successors would be Makani Themba, chief strategist at Higher Ground Change Strategies, and Monifa Bandele, chief operating officer at Time's Up Foundation.
But just a few months ago, in September, Themba and Bandele released a curious statement: Neither of them had ever assumed the role. They had not been able to "come to an agreement with the acting leadership council" and had ultimately declined the position.
In a subsequent tweet, Themba clarified that she was never onboarded, did not access BLM's funds, and was generally clueless about how the money was spent.
According to The Washington Examiner, the remaining board members of BLMGNF are Shalomyah Bowers and Raymond Howard. Bowers, "served as the treasurer for multiple activist organizations run by Cullors, including BLM PAC and a Los Angeles-based jail reform group that paid Cullors $20,000 a month and dropped nearly $26,000 for 'meetings' at a luxury Malibu beach resort in 2019."
According to additional reporting done by New York magazine:
In 2019, while working on an ultimately successful ballot initiative, Reform LA Jails collected more than $1.4 million in contributions. More than half was paid out to just four recipients. The group sent more than $270,000 to Bowers's consulting company, as well as some $211,000 to Asha Bandele, a friend of Cullors's who co-wrote her memoir. About $205,000 went to a company Cullors operates with her spouse, Janaya & Patrisse Consulting. And about $86,000 was paid to Trap Heals LLC, an entertainment, clothing, and consulting company started by Damon Turner, the father of Patrisse Cullors's child."
Fundraising ethicists consulted by both the Examiner and New York magazine found the arrangements extremely shady.
"This is grossly irregular and improper for a nonprofit with $60 million in its coffers," Paul Kamenar of the National Legal and Policy Center told The Examiner.
CharityWatch Executive Director Laurie Styron described BLM to New York magazine as a "giant ghost ship full of treasure drifting in the night with no captain, no discernible crew, and no clear direction."
These are damning descriptions of an organization that lead such an important—and well-funded—social movement. BLMGNF has some explaining to do.
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Methinks donors were hoodwinked…
Who is currently in charge of BLM? No one, it seems, has any idea. The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation is, as far as anyone can tell, leaderless. The founders are no longer involved, and the people they supposedly installed to succeed them never actually took the job.
That's all according to a series of bombshell reports in both left and right media. At the very least, they should give anyone who is considering donating to BLM serious pause.
Listeners with good memories will recall that last year, BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors came under fire for purchasing several million-dollar homes at the exact time the George Floyd protests were underway.
In a statement, BLM said that all of this was on the up and up: "Patrisse Cullors is the Executive Director of Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation (BLMGNF). She serves in this role in a volunteer capacity and does not receive a salary or benefits. Patrisse has received a total of $120,000 since the organization's inception in 2013, for duties such as serving as spokesperson and engaging in political education work. Patrisse did not receive any compensation after 2019."
And that very well might be the case. Cullors has many sources of income: book deals, speaking gigs, a media production arrangement. She's a celebrity activist, and that lifestyle can pay. Nevertheless, after the fallout from that story, Cullors resigned as president of BLMGNF.
In May 2021, she announced that her successors would be Makani Themba, chief strategist at Higher Ground Change Strategies, and Monifa Bandele, chief operating officer at Time's Up Foundation.
But just a few months ago, in September, Themba and Bandele released a curious statement: Neither of them had ever assumed the role. They had not been able to "come to an agreement with the acting leadership council" and had ultimately declined the position.
In a subsequent tweet, Themba clarified that she was never onboarded, did not access BLM's funds, and was generally clueless about how the money was spent.
According to The Washington Examiner, the remaining board members of BLMGNF are Shalomyah Bowers and Raymond Howard. Bowers, "served as the treasurer for multiple activist organizations run by Cullors, including BLM PAC and a Los Angeles-based jail reform group that paid Cullors $20,000 a month and dropped nearly $26,000 for 'meetings' at a luxury Malibu beach resort in 2019."
According to additional reporting done by New York magazine:
In 2019, while working on an ultimately successful ballot initiative, Reform LA Jails collected more than $1.4 million in contributions. More than half was paid out to just four recipients. The group sent more than $270,000 to Bowers's consulting company, as well as some $211,000 to Asha Bandele, a friend of Cullors's who co-wrote her memoir. About $205,000 went to a company Cullors operates with her spouse, Janaya & Patrisse Consulting. And about $86,000 was paid to Trap Heals LLC, an entertainment, clothing, and consulting company started by Damon Turner, the father of Patrisse Cullors's child."
Fundraising ethicists consulted by both the Examiner and New York magazine found the arrangements extremely shady.
"This is grossly irregular and improper for a nonprofit with $60 million in its coffers," Paul Kamenar of the National Legal and Policy Center told The Examiner.
CharityWatch Executive Director Laurie Styron described BLM to New York magazine as a "giant ghost ship full of treasure drifting in the night with no captain, no discernible crew, and no clear direction."
These are damning descriptions of an organization that lead such an important—and well-funded—social movement. BLMGNF has some explaining to do.
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Methinks donors were hoodwinked…
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sturg33
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why do you suppose that?
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
It's almost like it's a grift.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
It's because you weren't properly indoctrinated. Perhaps you should start watching MSNBC and following Occupy Democrats to help rid yourself of that inconvenient critical thinking you are prone to.
Tapate50
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Who has launched full scale assault specifically?