Official 2022 Offseason Moves Thread

nsacpi said:
I thought Beane was now a figurehead at the A's and devotes most of his time to consulting various soccer teams. That's his main passion these days.
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Listening to AA on Stark's podcast, he said he called Billy Beane late Sunday night for firm talks about Olsen. Beane said he would get back to Alex on Monday.

Late morning Beane called him back and said "if you do x, I would commit to this and we have a deal".

AA and committee discussed it, brought up the deal to McGuirk for approval. Then got back to Beane and it was a deal.
 
The Chosen One said:
Listening to AA on Stark's podcast, he said he called Billy Beane late Sunday night for firm talks about Olsen. Beane said he would get back to Alex on Monday.

Late morning Beane called him back and said "if you do x, I would commit to this and we have a deal".

AA and committee discussed it, brought up the deal to McGuirk for approval. Then got back to Beane and it was a deal.
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Beane probably thought AA was Ajax Amsterdam
 
Interesting, MLB agreed to implement the Otahni rule.

he now can DH and stay in the game even if he is taken out of the game on the mound, thus guaranteeing him a few more ABs per game.
 
Since they're making the DH a permanent fixture in both leagues they need to just make it a normal position and allow teams to sub for or double switch the DH just like any other position.
 
MLBTR Arbitration Tracker shows that Minter and the Braves settled for $2.2 million - haven't seen that announced elsewhere.

Of course they also missed the fact that Heredia agreed to terms before the lockout.
 
clvclv said:
MLBTR Arbitration Tracker shows that Minter and the Braves settled for $2.2 million - haven't seen that announced elsewhere.

Of course they also missed the fact that Heredia agreed to terms before the lockout.
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Talkingchop has the arb differences for the other 5 guys https://www.batterypower.com/2022/3/22/22992175/braves-arbitration-salary-2022-roster

Duvall $10.275 / Braves $9.275M
Fried $6.85M / Braves $6.6M
Jackson $4M / Braves $3.6
Riley $4.2M / Braves $3.95M
Swanson $10M / Braves $9.25M

It drives me crazy when the Braves haggle over tiny arb differences. Going to trial with Fried over $250k? Making Riley defend a $250k difference?

Pay these guys and move on. Ridiculous.
 
Enscheff said:
Talkingchop has the arb differences for the other 5 guys https://www.batterypower.com/2022/3/22/22992175/braves-arbitration-salary-2022-roster

Duvall $10.275 / Braves $9.275M
Fried $6.85M / Braves $6.6M
Jackson $4M / Braves $3.6
Riley $4.2M / Braves $3.95M
Swanson $10M / Braves $9.25M

It drives me crazy when the Braves haggle over tiny arb differences. Going to trial with Fried over $250k? Making Riley defend a $250k difference?

Pay these guys and move on. Ridiculous.
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I don't know how accurate this is, but I saw this somewhere online the other day. Supposedly the teams and players don't know the amounts the other side submitted to the arbiter until after they are turned in. Which seems silly...in the course of negotiation you should be able to discuss this, but I don't know if that is allowed under the CBA.

I agree that it is ridiculous that $3MM spread over five key players should be worth going to arbitration to settle. If nothing else, offer to split the difference on all.
 
DirkPiggler said:
I don't know how accurate this is, but I saw this somewhere online the other day. Supposedly the teams and players don't know the amounts the other side submitted to the arbiter until after they are turned in. Which seems silly...in the course of negotiation you should be able to discuss this, but I don't know if that is allowed under the CBA.

I agree that it is ridiculous that $3MM spread over five key players should be worth going to arbitration to settle. If nothing else, offer to split the difference on all.
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I am sure teams are lower and players higher than the arbitration numbers during negotiation. Once that final number is submitted they are more concerned with the arbiter ruling in their favor so both sides probably move to the middle which is why you see these minuscule gaps (very common across all teams).
 
I find it impossible to believe Rliey's agent and the Braves didn't state what number each side was going to file. How stupid would it be they literally filed the same number? Or the Braves filed a higher number than Riley?

It makes no sense to enter into a dispute (no matter how minimal or routine) over $250k with a key contributor that is already being employed at a bargain rate. So if a process needs to be fixed, fix it.
 
Enscheff said:
I find it impossible to believe Rliey's agent and the Braves didn't state what number each side was going to file. How stupid would it be they literally filed the same number? Or the Braves filed a higher number than Riley?

It makes no sense to enter into a dispute (no matter how minimal or routine) over $250k with a key contributor that is already being employed at a bargain rate. So if a process needs to be fixed, fix it.
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my understanding is that it is blind. the arbiter can only select one number or the other, they don't get to meet in the middle.

like the other poster said, the sides are "far" apart and the sides file something that they think is likely to get picked.

I assume with Minter, Minter wanted 3 and braves were at 2 and it got negotiated to 2.2.

It is a weird process.
 
Enscheff said:
I find it impossible to believe Rliey's agent and the Braves didn't state what number each side was going to file. How stupid would it be they literally filed the same number? Or the Braves filed a higher number than Riley?

It makes no sense to enter into a dispute (no matter how minimal or routine) over $250k with a key contributor that is already being employed at a bargain rate. So if a process needs to be fixed, fix it.
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AA said something on the broadcast about arbitration that really confused me. It was just a passing comment about how busy things have been, but he said they don’t do much with arbitration, they just “let the lawyers” do it. I don’t even have the slightest clue how that could play out, but he was emphasizing how little his group has to do with it.
 
Enscheff said:
I find it impossible to believe Rliey's agent and the Braves didn't state what number each side was going to file. How stupid would it be they literally filed the same number? Or the Braves filed a higher number than Riley?

It makes no sense to enter into a dispute (no matter how minimal or routine) over $250k with a key contributor that is already being employed at a bargain rate. So if a process needs to be fixed, fix it.
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My hunch is they each state they want a more extreme number say Riley'ss agent asks for 6M braves say they can pay 2.5. Then they move those numbers more to the middle when they go to arby. IMO the braves could come out the other side of this looking good to these players (if they're not allowed to agree beforehand) and just say we don't have a case against paying say Riley that much this year he wins.
 
Russ2dollas said:
I like that deal better than 2 years for Rosario. But maybe AA was rewarding him as posters have said we should do.

Reds are just going to deal him to a contender anyway so I like it even more for them.
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I think it's pretty telling what the mood is on Pham around the league. He's 34 and in clear decline so he's a risky proposition. And the risk isn't even about the money. I think a lot of teams didn't want to bring him, rely on him to be good, and then have him collapse on them.

The Reds are a perfect fit for him. The Reds aren't doing anything this year so they're not risking anything but the money in signing him. If he does well they can trade him at the deadline, if he's terrible then oh well.
 
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