Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

sturg33 said:
But question for the leftists... Do you believe that energy blackouts is indicative of failed government?
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Well I'll ask 4th time.i guess.

Weird nobody wants to take this one.

I figured the lecturer was trying to make a point about posting the TX story.

A yes or no answer would suffice
 
Jaw said:
It's something that's so hypocritical they can't possibly fail to see it. San Francisco doesn't want affordable housing. The tolerance and empathy are great when they're either abstract or imposed on others, but policies that make it more affordable and less elite to live there? Forget that. They're cool with single workers living 8 to a condo. It reminds me of Atlanta shipping all of the government housing residents to Clayton county.

There's a reason red states have cheaper housing. It isn't weather. People haven't been paying more to freeze their tails off in an apartment in Minnesota and Massachusetts instead of living on a Florida golf course.
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Except that's not true,

Florida's cost of living is worse than Minnesota. The states that are red and cheap are states people don't want to live in (Mississippi, OK, Kansas, Alabama) A blue state like Illinois is cheap to live in compared to many states.

But the main reason it's cheaper to live in red states vs. blue states is common, dirt doesn't vote. Dem policies are targetted to be more attractive to urban populations while R are targeted to suburban/rural. These lead to different expenditures. You're not wrong about policies intending to do certain things. But as someone who grew up somewhere very blue (NJ) and moved somewhere more purple/red (northern NH) I can tell you the extra money paid in NJ taxes went a long way. Roads were much better, superior waste management, education was better, etc.
 
Also for ****s and giggles, Paris's average temperature high in july is 77. So yeah I think the triple digits they're expecting are a bit out of what they expected.
 
zitothebrave said:
But as someone who grew up somewhere very blue (NJ) and moved somewhere more purple/red (northern NH) I can tell you the extra money paid in NJ taxes went a long way. Roads were much better, superior waste management, education was better, etc.
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+ higher life expectancy and a healthier population generally

+ a more productive workforce and all that jazz

not that NJ is perfect...it has its own colorful set of problems
 
Half my best friends friends college are from New Jersey. My wife is from New Jersey.

They always told me how amazing it was.

They never moved back. None of them.
 
I lived in NJ for 15 years. Haven't moved back. But that's not because I thought it was a bad place to live. I still go back quite often for various reasons (NOT the beaches though). When board leader visited I took him to Jersey City to enjoy the sights.

It ranks very high in things like health of its population, income, educational attainment.

I think it has benefited from having some progressive Republican governors. Kean, Whitman. Even Christie. People who generally had a positive conception of government and corrected some of the excesses of the Dems.
 
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I absolutely love to visit larger cities, but I'll never move out of the country. I can jump in my Jeep and ride trails on my own property, pee in my front yard if I like, fish, grow a garden, bon fires, or just sit in the front yard on a swing listening to nature. Don't have to lock my doors. No worries in house, MS.

My son has a nice apt in midtown in Atlanta. I hear his neighbors through the walls. He has neighbors he doesn't even know their name. Traffic is ridiculous. Just not my cup of tea
 
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