What does that have to do with anything? He has shown to be a wrc+ 120 hitter. That is fact. What you are doing is making excuses to support your argument. And it was 2010 not 2008.
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What does that have to do with anything? He has shown to be a wrc+ 120 hitter. That is fact. What you are doing is making excuses to support your argument. And it was 2010 not 2008.
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Because he's able to be great for 3 months of a season so it totally wipes out the other 3 or 2 months of the season where he's awful. Again. After the ASG last year Brian McCann offensively was nowhere to be found. That's a fact. .220/.296/.384 (.680) after the ASG last year in 196 PA. Compare that to the .291/.374/.536 (.910) in 206 PA before the ASG last year. Average them out and you get your 120 number.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Games before the All-Star Game count exactly as much as games after the All-Star Game.
There's no magic coefficient that weights August's plate-appearances more heavily than April's.
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
DUH! You want a cookie? That was not the point I was trying to make. I simply was trying to make the point that last year Brian McCann disappeared in the 2nd half of the season when the Braves needed him the most because of the injury to Heyward. That in the playoffs McCann went 0-for-13. That had McCann not completely disappeared the Braves might have made a stronger push to keep him but they had no problems not making him a serious offer because they like anyone with half a brain can see, and that's McCann is about to start a steep decline. Yes he may benefit from the short RF fence in Yankee Stadium and hit 30 bombs this year but how many of those will come at C and how many will come at DH? How many times will McCann end up on the DL over the next 5 years? How many times will McCann catch 130 games in the next 5 years? Brian McCann was my favorite player when he was here but he's not here anymore and I'm not crying about it. ESPN moving him up their list of catchers from 7th to 3rd is just more ESPN bias at it's finest.
Again how is that bias? Have you looked at the list of players below Mac on that list? Save Carlos Santana (who is not even a catcher anymore, btw), who among that group performed better or even close to Mac's level last season? Mac is easily the 3rd best catcher in baseball right now. And it really isn't close unless one of these players (or player not on this list) has a break out year at the catcher position.
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Just right off the top of my head I would have to say Jason Castro. Maybe Salvador Perez. Brewer's catcher Jonathan Lucroy was pretty good last year. Wilkin Rosario was mighty impressive last year. I don't know if any of those guys had better seasons than McCann did last year but I would guess they were close to on par with McCann.
Perhaps I shouldn't have said "anywhere close" but pretty much no one ranked below him had better yrs than Mac.
Rosario and Lucroy played in hitter friendly parks and still didn't have better seasons than Mac. Perez had a solid yr but not better than Mac.
Castro admittedly had a much better yr than Mac, But also doesn't have the track record Mac has. Strangely he didn't make the list at all.
The only player who is overrated on that list is Wieters. May be Russell Martin too.
Rosario and Lucroy played in hitter friendly parks and still didn't have better seasons than Mac. Perez had a solid yr but not better than Mac.
Castro admittedly had a much better yr than Mac, But also doesn't have the track record Mac has. Strangely he didn't make the list at all.
The only player who is overrated on that list is Wieters. May be Russell Martin too.
Yeah. Sometimes players have a bad 2nd half. Sometimes it's the first half. Sometimes it's equal all the way through. Honestly the only thing people look at is the end number. And he's been consistent with it for awhile now.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
What type of cookie?
You say you're not trying to make a point about one regular-season plate-appearance being more important than another ... then you assert that you consider some regular-season plate-appearances more important than others. I find that a little nonplussing.
I had a white chocolate raspberry cookie the other day, and it was truly dank.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
does this imply it was a magic cookie?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
You got a thanks and a rep because not only using nonpluss, but linking to the definition. That's some super awesome crap there.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Just one man's humble crusade to remind the world that "nonplus" means to confound and not to underwhelm.
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Do you want to win in the playoffs? I most certainly do. Do you want your supposedly team leader to step it up and carry his share of the load when your team is dealing with injuries? I most certainly do. McCann did neither of those things last year.
Chipper Jones **** the bed in the playoffs several times. It happens, even to the best. Not sure what sort of incoherent point you're trying to make and what it has to do with Mac being/not being overrated on that list.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Are you seriously saying that McCann didn't try hard and that's why he struggled? Cause that's what I'm reading here.
ViperVisor
High School Draftee
Catching position has to be at an all time low.
Remember the Matt Wieters hype? His career OPS is .739 That is .001 better than Saltalamacchia
Remember the Matt Wieters hype? His career OPS is .739 That is .001 better than Saltalamacchia
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
I remember when Bill James said Wieters was going to hit 500 homeruns. LMAO!
ViperVisor
High School Draftee
The Crystal Ball '09: Matt Wieters
For the last installment of this year's Crystal Ball, I was going to do some possible projections for the future rookie phenom Matt Wieters. But since Wieters is the most hyped Oriole prospect since Mike Mussina, he has been dissected and examined by everyone from fellow Oriole bloggers to national baseball writers. I've been trying to figure out an original angle on him...but as far as I can tell, he's been covered every which way you can imagine. So, I thought a recap of some of the projections would be the best way to go at this point.
ESPN's Keith Law ranked Wieters the #1 prospect in all of baseball and was uncharacteristically effusive in his praise for him.
Wieters is typically compared to one of two current big-leaguers: Mark Teixeira and Joe Mauer. Those are tough comps to hang on a player who has yet to sniff the big leagues, but in Wieters' case, they're merited...
Wieters could start 2009 in the majors, although giving him a one-month stint in Triple-A would give Baltimore the advantage of another year of control before Wieters hits free agency. Other than that possibility, there's nothing stopping him from becoming an impact catcher from Day One.
John Sickels of Minor League Ball calls him the "Best prospect in baseball. Mutant cross between Mauer and Piazza."
Dave Cameron looks at Wieters AA numbers at age 22 and shows how he compares favorably to other AA seasons by Miguel Cabrera, Jose Canseco, Pat Burrell, Vlad Guerrero and Eric Chavez.
Finally, Victor Wang compares Wieters against the number two prospect in baseball, Tampa Bay pitcher David Price. As it turns out, they aren't even close in terms of future value. Wieters laps him.
Various projections:
CHONE .274/.352/.439
Bill James .311/.407/.526
Oliver .294/.373/.487
Even the most modest of these projections gives Wieters a season that hasn't been seen by an Oriole catcher since the Chris Hoiles era.
If all the projections are to be believed, Wieters will be the second best player on the team the moment he sets cleats on the field. Now we'll see if he actually lives up to the hype.