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Wow - no more contribution from the ones who pushed the war at first. keener being called a pussy because you didn’t want to engage in a war the west started because we said all this fall out would result from it?

Where are you guys now?
 
thethe said:
Wow - no more contribution from the ones who pushed the war at first. keener being called a pussy because you didn’t want to engage in a war the west started because we said all this fall out would result from it?

Where are you guys now?
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I have no problem with what is happening in Ukraine. Putin is losing respect from the world and America isn’t losing soldiers from having boots on the ground. Win-win for us. The sooner Putin is out of power, the better. You don’t see the big picture. You want to bitch about all the billions being spent over there, but once putins gone, that money flow will stop.
 
Krgrecw said:
I have no problem with what is happening in Ukraine. Putin is losing respect from the world and America isn’t losing soldiers from having boots on the ground. Win-win for us. The sooner Putin is out of power, the better. You don’t see the big picture. You want to bitch about all the billions being spent over there, but once putins gone, that money flow will stop.
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The big picture is we have pushed Russia into the arms of China and Iran.

And now there is a global energy and food crisis
 
sturg33 said:
The big picture is we have pushed Russia into the arms of China and Iran.

And now there is a global energy and food crisis
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Unbelievable the Neo-Cons still don't see how they **** up the world.

These people are dangerous. Completely ignore how they executed a coup in Ukraine and pretend this is PUTIN being a bad man. Children...all of them.
 
To be clear - KG has no issue with only 30% of the weapons shipped to Ukraine going to the army to fight PUtin while the rest is on the black market and will destabilize Europe.

Amazing
 
Can't wait till Putin is gone and then the next person in charge is EVEN WORSE THAN PUTIN.

Kind of how we are now reading about how Desantis is WORSE THAN TRUMP!!!
 
sturg33 said:
The big picture is we have pushed Russia into the arms of China and Iran.

And now there is a global energy and food crisis
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A Russia- China alliance was always going to happen. They’re neighbors and the only way they can continue thier ways of government in the future is with each other’s help. Both countries would easily single handedly fall in a military war with the western world but together they have a better chance


Iran is nothing. Iran could be over thrown in a month at worst.




Yes, there is an energy and global food crisis, but if this leads to Putin and Russia falling, the numbers would come down to cheaper than what they were before Ukraine. How many trillions will we save by not needing to protecting Europe on an annual basis once Russia falls?
 
Wouldn't have to "Protect Europe from Putin" as much if stopped executing coups right on their border.

But hey - Why deal in facts when you can just push the Neo-Con warmonger narratives?
 
thethe said:
Unbelievable the Neo-Cons still don't see how they **** up the world.

These people are dangerous. Completely ignore how they executed a coup in Ukraine and pretend this is PUTIN being a bad man. Children...all of them.
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Putin is a bad man. Don’t know why you can’t get that through your head?
 
Krgrecw said:
Putin is a bad man. Don’t know why you can’t get that through your head?
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Why can't you get it in your head that we completely lied about what the border countries of Europe would represent?

I know - You want war. We get it.

Were we bad men for overthrowing a democratically elected leader in Ukraine?
 
thethe said:
Why can't you get it in your head that we completely lied about what the border countries of Europe would represent?

I know - You want war. We get it.
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You can’t have peace, when you have bad actors with power, who don’t like yours and my ideals. Putin has always wanted to build up and bring back the USSR. Has nothing to do with Ukraine. That was his easiest first choice.
 
Krgrecw said:
You can’t have peace, when you have bad actors with power, who don’t like you and my ideals. Putin has always wanted to build up and bring back the USSR. Has nothing to do with Ukraine. That was his easiest first choice.
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Interesting that Putin didn't start super aggressive until we overthrew the government in Ukraine. And then once the liberal world order was in power again pushing up against him he decided to be even more aggressive.

I know your position. You think we can go anywhere and tell anyone what to do and any push back is the other actor being bad.
 
thethe said:
Why can't you get it in your head that we completely lied about what the border countries of Europe would represent?

I know - You want war. We get it.

Were we bad men for overthrowing a democratically elected leader in Ukraine?
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Do you think Putin is a bad guy? Do you think the American military presence in Europe keeps Putin in check?
 
Krgrecw said:
Do you think Putin is a bad guy? Do you think the American military presence in Europe keeps Putin in check?
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Of course Putin is a bad guy. People that run the west are bad people as well. But thats not the reason he invaded Ukraine.

How do actions like exeucting a coup in Ukraine stabilize Europe?

If you're going to continue to believe this war started in Feb of 2022 you'll always be wrong.
 
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