zbhargrove
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It is literally ridiculous... he changes his arguments all the time to fit whatever he wants. The king of hand waving or fitting data into whatever space he needs to try to prove a point.
GDT 8/26/22: Braves @ Cardinals - Attack on the Birdhouse
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It is literally ridiculous... he changes his arguments all the time to fit whatever he wants. The king of hand waving or fitting data into whatever space he needs to try to prove a point.
You gave ten years that showed random things happen from the expected which is always that good pitching beats good hitting.
You at the same time said the Cubs had power pitching in the 2000s (which they didn't aside from the one year that Prior was healthy) and then got off that argument.
So is debating with me a waste of time or have you been unable to 'prove' anything other than random things happen?
Sure sure bud - We don't need to go down our history together. At least Chop has been right more than he is not.
chop2chip
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Why is it that “good pitching beats good hitting”?
Define why that is the “expected outcome”.
I don’t agree with this fundamental assertion you are making.
I think better hitting beats good pitching, and better pitching beats good hitting.
zbhargrove
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We've hit Kershaw pretty well recently, but to just discount him if he's healthy is very unwise. We rarely hit Gonsolin well and he's killed us this year.
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This is why the expected outcome of when you have two generational first ballot HOF power pitchers who are still at the top of their game are the most likely teams that will win in the playoffs.
chop2chip
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Taking this at face value, the Mets still have to hit Dodgers pitching and the Mets will have to cover minimum three other starts against a historically good offense.
I agree. If the dodgers didn’t have this advantage in the other 3 games then it would be a cake series to predict.
bravesfanMatt
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This debate is silly. Good pitching doesn’t beat good hitting just like good hitting doesn’t beat good pitching. They just increase the likelihood of success. Hitting a ball is a matter of .25 inches. A ball missing a barrel by .25 inches or less is the difference of a can of corn and a bomb. A bat just milliseconds slow is a matter of a foul ball and a double.
The dodgers have more players who are better thus they have a better chance of winning versus what the Mets toss out there. That is not debatable. But the Mets have two guys who can prevent hitters from barreling balls. That said they aren’t robots and if Jacob can give up bombs to Swanson then anyone can get him.
If Dodgers and Mets play the expected outcome is the Dodgers winning the series.
The dodgers have more players who are better thus they have a better chance of winning versus what the Mets toss out there. That is not debatable. But the Mets have two guys who can prevent hitters from barreling balls. That said they aren’t robots and if Jacob can give up bombs to Swanson then anyone can get him.
If Dodgers and Mets play the expected outcome is the Dodgers winning the series.
Heyward
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Series would probably go split in LA, Dodgers take 2 of 3 in NY then close it out in LA in 6 games. Provided DeGrom or Scherzer didnt get injured. Mets might have the advantage in the four games Max/Scherzer pitched, but it's not an insane gap. Dodgers have really good starting pitching.
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Haha I’m not sure why you guys still allowed yourself to get sucked in by the stupidity.
It’s like arguing with a 5 year old over why the sky is blue. You state scientific facts, and he quotes lines from the last episode of ninja turtles he watched.
Just ignore him and he’ll go away. He brings nothing of value to any discussion.