2022 Elections

cajunrevenge said:
Since the abortion ruling Democrats have outperformed the partisan lean in the 5 special elections by 6 points. This all combined with Trump helping some bad candidates win primaries has caused the Democrats chances to skyrocket. I would now be surprised if they lose both sides of a Congress. Really excited about Fetterman in PA, he has been pushing Biden on legalization. I will take any politician on either side who is strong on legalization. Even if its Matt Gaetz, who is a strong legalization supporter.
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Don't forget the democratic party funding those fascist candidates who are threats to DEMOCRACY!!
 
nsacpi said:
speaking of red herrings any reliable information out there on the number of 14 year old dicks that have been chopped off

enquiring minds would like to know
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Whatever the number is, some would argue emphatically that it isn’t enough.
 
chop2chip said:
Pedantry aside. I don’t think a moralist debate should hinge on a quantity of chopped dicks.
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As someone who has an interest in numbers i think zero and nonzero makes for a big difference when discussing any issue.

So is the number of chopped off 14 year old dicks zero or nonzero? Anyone know? Or care? I would think someone would know the answer to such an important question.
 
i await an answer...to pass the time i will listen to one of my favorite sounds

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nsacpi said:
As someone who has an interest in numbers i think zero and nonzero makes for a big difference when discussing any issue.

So is the number of chopped off 14 year old dicks zero or nonzero? Anyone know? Or care? I would think someone would know the answer to such an important question.
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Zero or non zero. I don’t know. You don’t either. It doesn’t matter with respect to the question of “should”
 
“ In practice, despite attachments to such organizations, at least 11 surgical specialists in the United States report having performed vaginoplasties on minors between the ages of 15 and 17 years, with implications for informed consent.44 No additional published data regarding the prevalence of gender-affirming bottom surgery performed in TGNC youth were found.”

So unfortunately the 14 year olds are safe. It’s those wizened 15 year olds we have to worry about. Hope you feel vindicated Jiminy Crickets.
 
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chop2chip said:
Zero or non zero. I don’t know. You don’t either. It doesn’t matter with respect to the question of “should”
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I guess I am being pedantic in wondering whether this is a discussion of something that actually happens or a hypothetical.
 
chop2chip said:
“ In practice, despite attachments to such organizations, at least 11 surgical specialists in the United States report having performed vaginoplasties on minors between the ages of 15 and 17 years, with implications for informed consent.44 No additional published data regarding the prevalence of gender-affirming bottom surgery performed in TGNC youth were found.”

So unfortunately the 14 year olds are safe. It’s those wizened 15 year olds we have to worry about. Hope you feel vindicated Jiminy Crickets.
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I take it you have some sort of understanding that the term vaginoplasty covers a pretty wide range of medical procedures.

Out of an abundance of goodwill I will take the quote you shared as coming from a reliable source. Identification of the source would help the conversation along.
 
nsacpi said:
I take it you have some sort of understanding that the term vaginoplasty covers a pretty wide range of medical procedures.

Out of an abundance of goodwill I will take the quote you shared as coming from a reliable source. Identification of the source would help the conversation along.
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Now that you are more educated on the topic, I would be actually interested in your opinion on the morality of providers giving this type of care to teens (which shouldn’t require me to do homework as a prereq, but given your semester just started I’ll chalk this up to a lack of patience with your students coming to office hours without having read the book)

https://publications.aap.org/pediat...cal-Issues-in-Gender-Affirming-Care-for-Youth
 
chop2chip said:
Now that you are more educated on the topic, I would be actually interested in your opinion on the morality of providers giving this type of care to teens (which shouldn’t require me to do homework as a prereq, but given your semester just started I’ll chalk this up to a lack of patience with your students coming to office hours without having read the book)

https://publications.aap.org/pediat...cal-Issues-in-Gender-Affirming-Care-for-Youth
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My opinion is this is a decision best left to the families with advice of their doctors, including psychologists.

But I think it is reasonable to hold the view that government should regulate genital surgery so it doesn't happen while a person is a minor.

I have been very close friends with a family that has a child (now adult) that is biologically a girl but identified as a boy. I've known the child since age 3. I have a great deal of respect for how that family has handled the situation.

I thank thee for the "education."

By the way you are not wrong that I am dealing with a small group of students who don't understand the value of doing the assigned reading. I've tried to gently explain to them that doing the reading will help them in various ways.
 
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