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"literally anyone who is not the 78 year old man is the establishment!!!!"

That’s not the argument. But you don’t want to hear anything about desantis that shows he is taking from people who have no interest in a string America. You’re allowed to close your eyes to it.
 
That’s not the argument. But you don’t want to hear anything about desantis that shows he is taking from people who have no interest in a string America. You’re allowed to close your eyes to it.

Lol dude I don't DeSantis is perfect by any stretch

I think he has stronger backbone than the guy who proved over and over he will bow down to pressure.

I also think he can actually, ya know, win an election.

But don't worry you can be on here in 2025 decrying yet another stolen election that trump couldn't overcome. Trump 2028 baby!
 
Nah mrm Kelly is being manipulated by the establishment to expect better from the "leader"

He's just too stupid to know that this trump playing 4d chess.

Truth hurts, Jesse

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Not hard to get people to cry for days back to the good old GOP.

You get what you vote for is what I hear around here.
 
Nah mrm Kelly is being manipulated by the establishment to expect better from the "leader"

He's just too stupid to know that this trump playing 4d chess.

Truth hurts, Jesse

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Did I defend trumps announcement? Kelly knows we need trump. That’s why he isn’t fully behind desabtis. He knows he won’t play well nationally.
 
Not hard to get people to cry for days back to the good old GOP.

You get what you vote for is what I hear around here.

5 minutes ago you loved DeSantis. But the min he won trump bashed him and now you have fallen in line

It's fine to support trump, prefer trump, want trump to win, etc. But this "anybody that's not trump is the enemy" is a mentality that is so bizarre
 
5 minutes ago you loved DeSantis. But the min he won trump bashed him and now you have fallen in line

It's fine to support trump, prefer trump, want trump to win, etc. But this "anybody that's not trump is the enemy" is a mentality that is so bizarre

I still love desantis. When have I said one bad thing about him other than his document war hawkishness?
 
Uhhh can you read the last few pages? You continue to imply that supporting him is supporting the old GOP

He is literally being supported and funded by those people. What do you think is going to happen if he wins? He’s going to reject them? They will be coming get what they paid for.
 
He is literally being supported and funded by those people. What do you think is going to happen if he wins? He’s going to reject them? They will be coming get what they paid for.

So you still love DeSantis but think he is a secret plant of the establishment?

That's weird of you
 
This is pathetic.

Trump did the 15 days to slow the spread bull****.

**** him

did trump end the war in afghanistan? nope, establishment convinced him not to

did trump withold weapons to ukraine? nope, establishment convinced him not to

did trump cut spending? nope, establishment convinced him not to

did trump parton assange, snoweden, etc? nope, establishment convinced him not to

did trump respect the bill of rights, follow the science, etc? nope, establishment convinced him not to


did trump help win elections in 2018? nope

did trump beat a basement dummy in 2020? nope

did trump help the ga sentate runoff favor the GOP to save us from disastrous biden policies? nope, he told his voters to stay home

did trump help win 2022 elections against a historically unpopular incumbent party? nope, embarassing defeats not seen since 1934



now its time for you to tell me all the excuses. he was lied to. the deep state undermined him. the elections were stolen, etc etc.

and trump was useless to stop it all

I am still waiting to hear why I should accept this failure and believe next time will be different
 
I am still waiting to hear why I should accept this failure and believe next time will be different

I am still waiting to understand how you said Trump was the best president of your lifetime and now all you can do is talk about failures as if anyone gets 100% of the issues correct.
 
It’s amazing to me how anyone can look at that ridiculous NFT and not feel embarassed.

I look at the whole picture and I remember where the country was headed prior to the release of the CCP virus.

What does his NFT release mean in the grand scheme of things and how does that impact the fact he was an amazing president?

The real issue is there was always a subset of voters that held their nose and are looking for reasons to bail. They don't care about results apparently.
 
So you still love DeSantis but think he is a secret plant of the establishment?

That's weird of you

Whats going to happen when his bankrolled donors ask to get what they want? Desantis first loyalty is to his family as it should be.
 
I am still waiting to understand how you said Trump was the best president of your lifetime and now all you can do is talk about failures as if anyone gets 100% of the issues correct.

I have explained to you probably a dozen times.

It's.up to you if you want to understand.

Trump did many great things. But when things got tough, he folded like a cheap suit.

We need someone who is able to withstand the pressure and implement the right things necessary.

Trump can't do that. Someone convinced him to release these NFTs and that's all I need to know that he just isn't up for the task
 
But here goes:

Trump did the 15 days to slow the spread bull****. (Smart move when you consider we had no clue about the IFR - Once the data started coming in Trump talked about opening up fully against all advice. Was derided for such and then respected the constitution and left it up to the states to decide. THE HORROR!!!)

**** him

did trump end the war in afghanistan? nope, establishment convinced him not to (The plan was literally in place and would have been implemented just the same but more effectively implemented. This is an absolute ridiculous talking point from you. The only reason Biden was able to pull out was the MASSIVE success Trumps foreign policy had in Afghanistan)

did trump withold weapons to ukraine? nope, establishment convinced him not to (Trump was building a deterrent to war through strength. It was kind of his thing but sure kill him for this when no conflict happened under his watch. Just a continual theme now from you which is a complete 180 from where you were a year ago)

did trump cut spending? nope, establishment convinced him not to (I've answered this several times. He inherited a **** situation from Obama and had to rebuild the military. The shape of the economy in Q3/4 19 was amazing and we were starting to balane the budget. This is undeniably true)

did trump parton assange, snoweden, etc? nope, establishment convinced him not to (Bleh - You can keep your Cerno taking point here. It's kind of irrelevant on the everyday persons life)

did trump respect the bill of rights, follow the science, etc? nope, establishment convinced him not to (What did Trump do exactly here that didn't respect the BIll of Rights? He LITERALLY RESPECTED THE CONSTITUTION AND LEFT POWER TO STATES)


did trump help win elections in 2018? nope (On the backdrop of endless lies (You've said millions of times) and media manipulation the GOP actually did better than expected)

did trump beat a basement dummy in 2020? nope (I guess you are off the 2020 election was stolen. Oh welll)

did trump help the ga sentate runoff favor the GOP to save us from disastrous biden policies? nope, he told his voters to stay home (See point above - Oh well)

did trump help win 2022 elections against a historically unpopular incumbent party? nope, embarassing defeats not seen since 1934 (See Point above plus the RNC worked specifically against AMerica First Candidates)
 
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