Tapate50
Well-known member
Lol
The President literally had to withdraw his last bid for the Oval Office because he said nothing about his past was correct.
All lies.
Even you don’t believe what you posted
2022 Elections
- Thread starter Jaw
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Lol
The President literally had to withdraw his last bid for the Oval Office because he said nothing about his past was correct.
All lies.
Even you don’t believe what you posted
Tapate50
Well-known member
NY does have some dumb voters
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It does especially in Long Island.
Runnin
Well-known member
Yep.
The Dominion vs Faux News trial will also be fun to watch. Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson have said they knew they were broadcasting lies daily.
Hopefully Dominion won't settle out of court and the mainstream media will get to report Faux News wallowing around in the muck of their own making for weeks on end.
cajunrevenge
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Karen Lakes's court hearings not going so well. Lets go over what they brought forth as evidence.
A Republican pollster who calls himself the "peoples pundit" who has an F ratings with 538.com who has been a part of Mike Lindell's shenanigans who said he did an exit poll of 817 people in Maricopa county and from that concluded that 15k to 29k Karen votes were suppressed. Riveting.....
Sworn declarations from 200 people saying they were impacted by voting issues with all but 3 of those people having actually voted and the 3 that didnt vote did so of their own free will and not because they didnt have the option to vote.
A cybersecurity expert who said the printers were set to print out the wrong size but conceded that those ballots go to a bipartisan committee to review and are still counted.
Spoiler, Karens going to lose.... again. Even little thethe isnt stupid enough to believe this ****. The only question really is will the Judge sanction Karen and her lawyers for such stupid BS.
A Republican pollster who calls himself the "peoples pundit" who has an F ratings with 538.com who has been a part of Mike Lindell's shenanigans who said he did an exit poll of 817 people in Maricopa county and from that concluded that 15k to 29k Karen votes were suppressed. Riveting.....
Sworn declarations from 200 people saying they were impacted by voting issues with all but 3 of those people having actually voted and the 3 that didnt vote did so of their own free will and not because they didnt have the option to vote.
A cybersecurity expert who said the printers were set to print out the wrong size but conceded that those ballots go to a bipartisan committee to review and are still counted.
Spoiler, Karens going to lose.... again. Even little thethe isnt stupid enough to believe this ****. The only question really is will the Judge sanction Karen and her lawyers for such stupid BS.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Not long ago, Joe Mohler would have seemed an unlikely person to help bury the political legacy of Donald J. Trump.
Mr. Mohler, a 24-year-old Republican committeeman and law student in Lancaster Township, Pa., voted for Mr. Trump in 2016. He voted for him again in 2020 — but this time with some misgivings. And when Mr. Trump began spouting lies and conspiracy theories about his 2020 loss, Mr. Mohler, who grew up in a solidly conservative area of southeastern Pennsylvania, was troubled to hear many people he knew repeat them.
Last January, after county Republican leaders aligned with a group known for spreading misinformation about the 2020 election and Covid-19 vaccines, Mr. Mohler spoke out against them — a move that he said cost him his post as chairman of the township G.O.P. committee.
“I just realized how much of a sham the whole movement was,” he said. “The moment the veil is pulled from your face, you realize how ugly the face is that you are looking at.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/24/us/politics/democracy-voters-elections-2022.html
As the article notes the shift of a "small but precarious" group of voters like Joe Mohler proved decisive. Now others are looking for alternatives after concluding that they can't win with very poorly chosen one. Mohler and company acted out of principle. The others have a motivation that can be viewed more as opportunistic than anything else. Either way the shift is to be welcomed.
Mr. Mohler, a 24-year-old Republican committeeman and law student in Lancaster Township, Pa., voted for Mr. Trump in 2016. He voted for him again in 2020 — but this time with some misgivings. And when Mr. Trump began spouting lies and conspiracy theories about his 2020 loss, Mr. Mohler, who grew up in a solidly conservative area of southeastern Pennsylvania, was troubled to hear many people he knew repeat them.
Last January, after county Republican leaders aligned with a group known for spreading misinformation about the 2020 election and Covid-19 vaccines, Mr. Mohler spoke out against them — a move that he said cost him his post as chairman of the township G.O.P. committee.
“I just realized how much of a sham the whole movement was,” he said. “The moment the veil is pulled from your face, you realize how ugly the face is that you are looking at.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/24/us/politics/democracy-voters-elections-2022.html
As the article notes the shift of a "small but precarious" group of voters like Joe Mohler proved decisive. Now others are looking for alternatives after concluding that they can't win with very poorly chosen one. Mohler and company acted out of principle. The others have a motivation that can be viewed more as opportunistic than anything else. Either way the shift is to be welcomed.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
From the article:
The election results suggest that a focus on Mr. Trump’s election lies did not merely galvanize Democrats but also alienated Republicans and independents. Final turnout figures show registered Republicans cast more ballots than registered Democrats in Arizona and Nevada, but election-denying candidates nevertheless lost important races in each of those states.
Republican candidates in statewide contests who embraced Mr. Trump’s election lies also significantly underperformed compared with Republicans who did not. This was true even in districts that voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Trump in 2020, suggesting that the defection of ticket-splitters like Mr. Mohler likely played a role.
In a survey of voters in five battleground states conducted by the research firm Citizen Data for the advocacy group Protect Democracy, a third who cast ballots for a mix of Democrats and Republicans in November cited a concern that G.O.P. candidates held views or promoted policies “that are dangerous to democracy.”
“The good news from the 2022 elections is that election denial seems like a loser for Republicans to run on,” said Richard L. Hasen, an election law scholar at the University of California, Los Angeles. “Maybe that will lead more Republicans to speak out against fact-free claims of election fraud.”
“This extreme conversation about voter fraud, it attracts an extreme flavor of people,” said Kristopher Dahir, a councilman and pastor in Sparks, Nev., who ran as a Republican for secretary of state this year. After losing the primary to Jim Marchant, a prominent figure in the election denier movement, Mr. Dahir endorsed Mr. Marchant’s Democratic opponent, Cisco Aguilar, who won in November.
The narrowness of some of the election deniers’ losses, and the diversity of factors that likely played into them, have led some experts to caution that November’s results should not be mistaken for a wholesale rejection of anti-democratic politics.
“Anyone who believes that we’re out of the woods because a handful of election deniers lost close races in swing states is deluding themselves,” said Brian Klaas, a scholar on authoritarianism at University College London.
The election results suggest that a focus on Mr. Trump’s election lies did not merely galvanize Democrats but also alienated Republicans and independents. Final turnout figures show registered Republicans cast more ballots than registered Democrats in Arizona and Nevada, but election-denying candidates nevertheless lost important races in each of those states.
Republican candidates in statewide contests who embraced Mr. Trump’s election lies also significantly underperformed compared with Republicans who did not. This was true even in districts that voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Trump in 2020, suggesting that the defection of ticket-splitters like Mr. Mohler likely played a role.
In a survey of voters in five battleground states conducted by the research firm Citizen Data for the advocacy group Protect Democracy, a third who cast ballots for a mix of Democrats and Republicans in November cited a concern that G.O.P. candidates held views or promoted policies “that are dangerous to democracy.”
“The good news from the 2022 elections is that election denial seems like a loser for Republicans to run on,” said Richard L. Hasen, an election law scholar at the University of California, Los Angeles. “Maybe that will lead more Republicans to speak out against fact-free claims of election fraud.”
“This extreme conversation about voter fraud, it attracts an extreme flavor of people,” said Kristopher Dahir, a councilman and pastor in Sparks, Nev., who ran as a Republican for secretary of state this year. After losing the primary to Jim Marchant, a prominent figure in the election denier movement, Mr. Dahir endorsed Mr. Marchant’s Democratic opponent, Cisco Aguilar, who won in November.
The narrowness of some of the election deniers’ losses, and the diversity of factors that likely played into them, have led some experts to caution that November’s results should not be mistaken for a wholesale rejection of anti-democratic politics.
“Anyone who believes that we’re out of the woods because a handful of election deniers lost close races in swing states is deluding themselves,” said Brian Klaas, a scholar on authoritarianism at University College London.
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sturg33
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Do you find Kari Lake to be more ridiculous, as ridiculous, or less ridiculous as Stacey Abrams?
Tapate50
Well-known member
another non answer incoming
sturg33
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I dunno man goldy is usually pretty great at answering simple direct questions
