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CyYoung31 said:
The only person crying in this thread is you, as usual.
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No need to get defensive hero. I wasn’t criticizing you and your fragile ego.

I’m referring to the uproar folks were discussing in this thread, not the people in the thread. That’s why I referred to the “fanbase” rather than “this board”.

Reading comprehension…get some?
 
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Enscheff said:
No need to get defensive hero. I wasn’t criticizing you and your fragile ego.

I’m referring to the uproar folks were discussing in this thread, not the people in the thread. That’s why I referred to the “fanbase” rather than “this board”.

Reading comprehension…get some?
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Ok, buddy. I mean, considering no one outside this board was brought up in this discussion, considering you didn’t specify, and considering that 90% of your posts are criticizing what people on this board decide to talk about, it’s pretty fair to assume it was directed at someone here.
 
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VirginiaBrave said:
Told y'all Dans would not mind one bit putting on another uni. Won't be any tear-filled presser when the Cubbies come to town.
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Dans only grinded here for roughly a year and some change before we won the division again and have been competitive since.

Freddie was the last true link to the end of the Cox and Chipper era. Watched the team rise for a few seasons before being blown up and did stay with the team through the full rebuild.

Dansbys first full season was in 2017 when we opened suntrust and had pretty good attendance despite not being a playoff team.

Freddie was there for a lot of empty nights at the dying years of the Ted when we were throwing out those AAAA lineups.

I am pretty much over the fact Freddie left, but the two are not even comparable. Freddie was way more important to the franchise than Dansby ever was. The only reason people still love Dansby is because he was a local boy.
 
Wow!


The Braves plan to stop the sale of season tickets to preserve the availability of single-game tickets.

Braves president Derek Schiller says this is the first time in team history season ticket sales have been cut off before the first game.

The Braves plan to cut off the sale of season tickets on or around March 17. The team says it is on pace to approach the 2022 Truist Park record total of more than 3.1 million in attendance, the first time since 2020 at Turner Field the Braves topped 3 million.

The Braves finished fourth in the majors last season with their average of 38,461 fans at Truist Park.


"We are now focused on ensuring that more of our fans who only come to one or two games are able to buy seats," Schiller said in a statement released by the team.

The Braves say their April 6 home opener against San Diego and some other high-profile games already are approaching sellout or standing room only status.

After March 17, fans who want to purchase season tickets for 2024 can sign up and be placed on a waiting list for priority.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35798161/braves-plan-cut-sale-season-tickets-opener
 
The pitch clock has potential to add layers of strategy I never considered: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/max-scherzer-tests-the-limits-of-the-new-pitch-clock-rules/

Of course the dinosaurs complaining about losing compelling strategy with the introduction of the DH are the same fools complaining about the pitch clock. I'm sure those mouth breathers won't concede the fact the pitch clock may add more strategy to the game than any amount of PHing for the pitcher or bunting from the pitcher ever did. Instead, they will continue to cry about change because change is bad.
 
Enscheff said:
The pitch clock has potential to add layers of strategy I never considered: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/max-scherzer-tests-the-limits-of-the-new-pitch-clock-rules/

Of course the dinosaurs complaining about losing compelling strategy with the introduction of the DH are the same fools complaining about the pitch clock. I'm sure those mouth breathers won't concede the fact the pitch clock may add more strategy to the game than any amount of PHing for the pitcher or bunting from the pitcher ever did. Instead, they will continue to cry about change because change is bad.
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I am not sure there is any strategy in that article. Just players gaming a rule, which players have been doing for decades now. there is going to be punch counter punch between hitters and pitchers until the league has to modify the rule to end the clear advantage one might have.. if that ever comes about.. To me, I like the pitch clock to a degree, just think it is a bit too much too quick and probably more favorable to the pitcher, which might not be too bad since the other rule changes favor the offense.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I am not sure there is any strategy in that article. Just players gaming a rule, which players have been doing for decades now. there is going to be punch counter punch between hitters and pitchers until the league has to modify the rule to end the clear advantage one might have.. if that ever comes about.. To me, I like the pitch clock to a degree, just think it is a bit too much too quick and probably more favorable to the pitcher, which might not be too bad since the other rule changes favor the offense.
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Huh? Scherzer literally discussed his strategy with the pitch clock.

In-game strategy is infinitely more compelling than a manager predictably bunting a pitcher or sending up someone to PH for the pitcher. Yet the dinosaurs complained about losing that boring strategy while also complaining about gaining the compelling strategy. They also bemoan analytics despite the fact analytics introduce quite a bit of defensive strategy and lineup construction strategy.

So their arguments were never about "strategy". "Strategy" was just the tagline used by dumb people to justify why they don't like change, and lack the self awareness to recognize that fact.
 
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Huh? Scherzer literally discussed his strategy with the pitch clock.

In-game strategy is infinitely more compelling than a manager predictably bunting a pitcher or sending up someone to PH for the pitcher. Yet the dinosaurs complained about losing that boring strategy while also complaining about gaining the compelling strategy. They also bemoan analytics despite the fact analytics introduce quite a bit of defensive strategy and lineup construction strategy.

So their arguments were never about "strategy". "Strategy" was just the tagline used by dumb people to justify why they don't like change, and lack the self awareness to recognize that fact.
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But what Max is doing is no different that what hitters would do before the clock. Stepping out and breaking temp was a 'strategy' imployed for decades. So was the quick pitch if a pitcher wanted to do it. So the pitch clock isn't adding 'new' strategy just changing the way players game a rule. No different than a guy trying to deke a pitcher into a balk when leading off 3rd.. or a pitcher steping off to shorten a lead, or even a group of players using trash cans to get pitch types. So I don't think you comparing apples to apples. What a manager has to do within a game (bunting/ PH'ing) is not equal to what players do within a game to game a rule. And I seriously doubt a manager is going to imploy a staff wide pitch clock strategy.
 
Yeah, I see what you mean. I suppose what I'm calling "new strategy" is more along the lines of "faster paced strategy". These bits of gamesmanship will be occurring every 10-20 seconds, which I think will be far more entertaining than a guy stepping out of the box and grabbing his nuts every other pitch. Or watching a manager tell the pitcher to bunt when we all know that's what always happens, and knew it was going to happen 20 minutes before it actually happens.
 
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Yeah, I see what you mean. I suppose what I'm calling "new strategy" is more along the lines of "faster paced strategy". These bits of gamesmanship will be occurring every 10-20 seconds, which I think will be far more entertaining than a guy stepping out of the box and grabbing his nuts every other pitch. Or watching a manager tell the pitcher to bunt when we all know that's what always happens, and knew it was going to happen 20 minutes before it actually happens.
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Mike "The Human Rain Delay" Hargrove would have led the league in times struck out without ever swinging the bat. Nomar wouldn't have been far behind.
 
50PoundHead said:
Mike "The Human Rain Delay" Hargrove would have led the league in times struck out without ever swinging the bat. Nomar wouldn't have been far behind.
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And yet, Nomar was one of the exceptions to the rule for his time. but he definitely inspired newer up and coming younger players to have all these rituals. Ryan Howard was another one.

You also can't discount that games are also taking longer because batters are taking more pitches. Working more counts. Was watching some odl games on MLB network and the amount of swings at first pitches and grounders to short on 92mph fastballs was so common, not just against Maddux. Hitters would destroy those pitches now.
 
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