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one is rooted in facts and math - cold hard numbers.

the only solutions I have seen you present is moving money from defense to social security... eventually.

I have not seen such a proposal from Donald Trump... let me know if I missed it.

There are plenty of numbers and models in climate change as well.

Only solution? How about increasing inflows by bringing jobs back and eliminating illegal immigration. That basically solves the whole issue.

Why are we enriching the CCP?
 
Do you know what more jobs also equals? Less Americans on welfare. What does that mean? More money for social security.
 
"more jobs!" is not a policy proposal

as I said, 100% labor participation will not solve this shortfall.

In fact, if we took the defense budget to $0... it would not solve this shortfall

you are not a serious person with these "solutions"

the program is failed. it is failed because it is a Ponzi scheme. and like all Ponzi schemes, it has run out of money

it is what it is, math guy
 
"more jobs!" is not a policy proposal

as I said, 100% labor participation will not solve this shortfall.

In fact, if we took the defense budget to $0... it would not solve this shortfall

you are not a serious person with these "solutions"

the program is failed. it is failed because it is a Ponzi scheme. and like all Ponzi schemes, it has run out of money

it is what it is, math guy

Sounds like some whining when I proposed real solutions.

Keep pretending that sending all of middle americas jobs to the CCP (YAY CAPITALISM) didn't cause of all of this.

Keep pretending.

Math guy - I would RUN CIRCLES around you in any math intensive exercise.
 
Social Security's biggest advocate - Paul ****ing Krugman - is saying this will be solved by:

1. people dying younger (awesome!!!)

2. raising payroll taxes by $1T

lol yeah that'll be great for creating jobs
 
Social Security's biggest advocate - Paul ****ing Krugman - is saying this will be solved by:

1. people dying younger (awesome!!!)

2. raising payroll taxes by $1T

lol yeah that'll be great for creating jobs

With fat American (1) is most certainly true.

(2) is a joke and should never happen.

Creating jobs is super easy. Just stop accepting chinese imports. PIECE OF CAKE>
 
Sounds like some whining when I proposed real solutions.

Keep pretending that sending all of middle americas jobs to the CCP (YAY CAPITALISM) didn't cause of all of this.

Keep pretending.


explain - with math - how your solutions closes the shortfall?

Math guy - I would RUN CIRCLES around you in any math intensive exercise.

I might have believed you before learning that you an ardent supporter of Ponzi schemes
 
explain - with math - how your solutions closes the shortfall?



I might have believed you before learning that you an ardent supporter of Ponzi schemes



(1) More jobs equals more inflows plus less outflows for welfare (Basic Math)

(2) Removing illegals gets more jobs ON THE BOOKS which results in more inflows. Plus more Americans gets jobs which is less outflow out of other entitlements

Any other questions?
 
(1) More jobs equals more inflows plus less outflows for welfare (Basic Math)

(2) Removing illegals gets more jobs ON THE BOOKS which results in more inflows. Plus more Americans gets jobs which is less outflow out of other entitlements

Any other questions?


Yes. I want specifics.

How many new jobs need to be created?

What will the labor force participation need to be?

What specific policies will be enacted that gets those two points done? (please read... specific policies)

Assuming nothing gets started until January of 2025, when will these jobs happen?
 
Yes. I want specifics.

How many new jobs need to be created?

What will the labor force participation need to be?

What specific policies will be enacted that gets those two points done? (please read... specific policies)

Assuming nothing gets started until January of 2025, when will these jobs happen?

I don't have access to the necessary data sets to provide you with those specifics.

But its easy to think of a world where we stop any importing from the CCP and the resulting boom in manufacturing here domestically.

Deflecting to you want to see a final proposal with specifics is just a debate tactic to not admit you are wrong.
 
Gambling the retirement savings of 80 millions seniors by just saying "more jobs" is not acceptable.

This is a math problem. The solutions need to address the math
 
I don't have access to the necessary data sets to provide you with those specifics.

But its easy to think of a world where we stop any importing from the CCP and the resulting boom in manufacturing here domestically.

Deflecting to you want to see a final proposal with specifics is just a debate tactic to not admit you are wrong.

of course you don't have specifics. because just screaming "create amazing high paying jobs" is what every politician says every year since the beginning of time.

for you to pretend trying to reform this failed system is the bad thing to do is preposterous. I can show you with hard math why it isn't going to work.

You're saying you can fix it with hard math, but can't give any specifics as to how

having said all that, I invite you to show me Donald Trump's proposal on this
 
of course you don't have specifics. because just screaming "create amazing high paying jobs" is what every politician says every year since the beginning of time.

for you to pretend trying to reform this failed system is the bad thing to do is preposterous. I can show you with hard math why it isn't going to work.

You're saying you can fix it with hard math, but can't give any specifics as to how

having said all that, I invite you to show me Donald Trump's proposal on this

They don't need to 'Amazing High Paying Jobs'. Using this as the rebuttal (something that was never said) gives insight into your intellectual honestly in this conversation. We need JOBS. Full stop and stopping sending them all to the CCP would be the trigger.

Your 'Math' is based on the current structure. I am saying we need to radically change our economic system. And we will....
 
I want LESS people working.

I want more families and people working at home raising children

you want 100% labor participation work force in order to try to fund these horrific programs that rob Americans of 10x opportunity cost.

just failure all around. and if Donald trump's solution to the pending default of this program is "absolutely no changes" he is not a serious problem solver.

I again invite you to send his position on this
 
and just to reiterate... no serious "math guy" buys into a Ponzi scheme.

Ponzi schemes are of suckers. They always fail.

And this one has too.
 
I want LESS people working.

I want more families and people working at home raising children

you want 100% labor participation work force in order to try to fund these horrific programs that rob Americans of 10x opportunity cost.

just failure all around. and if Donald trump's solution to the pending default of this program is "absolutely no changes" he is not a serious problem solver.

I again invite you to send his position on this

I do not want 100% labor force participation. SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THIS.

YOu want people fully invested into the private markets when they have no clue how to manage their checkbook. When the next stock market crash happens and retirees are ****ed you'll be nowhere to be found.
 
I do not want 100% labor force participation. SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THIS.

YOu want people fully invested into the private markets when they have no clue how to manage their checkbook. When the next stock market crash happens and retirees are ****ed you'll be nowhere to be found.

Your proposed solution to fill the funding void is many more Americans working than they are today, is it not?
 
Your proposed solution to fill the funding void is many more Americans working than they are today, is it not?

Absolutely. It also includes reduced welfare payments. It also includes more inflows. You aren't going to all of a sudden shed the female workforce by 100%. They want to work and in a lot of cases are good at their jobs. You don't need mommy home with baby 24/7 to have a functioning family or life.
 
Absolutely. It also includes reduced welfare payments. It also includes more inflows. You aren't going to all of a sudden shed the female workforce by 100%. They want to work and in a lot of cases are good at their jobs. You don't need mommy home with baby 24/7 to have a functioning family or life.

Ok great but if the math shows that even 100% labor participation force doesn't come close to closing the gap, then what?

Also strange to see you wanting to cut welfare benefits while simultaneously virtue signaling about social safety nets
 
The ironic thing is that the large increase in labor participation since the 80s probably directly contributed to declining birth rates that has caused the ponzi scheme to fail

Ironic
 
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