Because there was a gov and attorney general that did **** after the SPONSORED audit showed massive fraud in the 2020 election. Any other questions?
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Because there was a gov and attorney general that did **** after the SPONSORED audit showed massive fraud in the 2020 election. Any other questions?
Your argument against is rising costs. Duh. The costs are low because of slave labor. The whole idea is to stop using slave labor. Just on that fact alone tariffs are a massive win. But when you change the economics of a supply chain the supply chain adapts. It just needs more than a year or two.
sturg33
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What this tells me is that trump was unable to overcome the system that is stacked against him.
Oh sturg - classic.
Why didn’t trump do anything? He did the following but the people in power were either on the take or to weak to do anything.
Sturg “DAMN TRUMP”
sturg33
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If my argument is that I don't believe trump has shown the ability to overcome the institutional cheating, and thus don't want to gamble on him successfully doing so in 2024...
The wrong argument to make is all the places that trump was not successful in overcoming the institutional cheating
Yeah that was most definitely trumps fault that audit evidence detailing fraudulent activities were not acted on.
sturg33
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I'm not saying it's his fault.
I'm saying it was unsuccessful.
He is not the current president. Lake is not the current governor
Desantis and team are obviously thrilled. But I’m sure once the pressure is in they’ll make a weak statement. Just like when it became politically viable to go against lockdowns team desantis did as well.
So you’ll hold it against him when the outcome would have been the same regardless of the victim?
sturg33
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By retribution, I mean locking hunter Biden in prison.
DeSantis has shown the spine to do this. And I want it done.
Fauci too of course, but I want Fauci in GITMO.
Trump won't go after Fauci because there is too much tape of trump praising him
sturg33
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Holding it against isn't the term I'd use... But in essence, yes.
I care about winning. That has to happen. And trump last 6 years have been dreadful electorally.
There are legitimate reasons and excuses for this... But he hasn't been able to overcome them. I believe other candidates can. I may very well be wrong... But RDS has a track record of growing his vote count by 19 points in one cycle.
I think trump famously one said "I don't like losers." And neither do i
Desantis has a ruby red state and what has he done exactly? Loudly reprimanded Disney?
You think this is the resume of someone that will be able to make things happen with a dividdd Washington? You can’t actually believe that.
sturg33
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Well...
His ruby red state was won by the thinnest margin in 30 years... Less than 10k votes
He has since revoked Disney's special tax exemption to operate their land privately, that they enjoyed since the 1940s I believe.
He banned CRT in schools
He banned teachers from discussing sex with children.
He banned porno books from from school libraries
He revoked a major corps liquor license for hosting a grooming drag show for little kids
He banned local jurisdiction from imposing COVID mandates like masks on citizens
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This is just off the top of my head. He has shown a willingness to actually execute on his bluster.
Trump on the other hand... Threatened to withhold weapons from Ukraine if they don't spill the dirt on Biden. They didn't. He gave them the weapons anyways. And then he got impeached for his efforts.
That is one example of MANY where he refused to actually execute on his threats.
A second timely example was when he said he would put Hilary in jail. He didn't. And now they are trying to put him in jail.
When it comes to having a spine and execution, please give me the guy who has actually done it successfully
cajunrevenge
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Neither will because there is nothing to prosecute him on. Curious though that you favor politically persecuting Fauchi but cry about prosecuting the elites in our society.
sturg33
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I would like to dig into the specifics of this...
but before i do, can you clarify your position?
Is it that DeSantis was awful, but Trump was not awful?
Is it that they were both awful? But DeSantis's awfulness was worse?
And do you put a lot of weight into the early judgement and decision making from the pandemic, when deciding who to support next year?
sturg33
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1. there is an infinite amount to prosecute him on
2. nonsense - now that pandora's box is open.. i want everyone prosecuted and i want a lot of revenge
