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I don't make **** up.

I've told you all who to listen to if you want to know whats really going on.

you made a declarative statement.

I asked you for evidence of this.

You have two responses since providing no evidence. This has been your MO lately... no substance at all.

please provide the evidence that Karl Rove and Paul Ryan are running RDS's campaign
 
endlessly? perhaps I missed it. I've been recovering from ankle surgery and been on some major pain killers.

just link to the post then, so I can review it... where you tell me the exact works from the Ukraine statement that indicates he's a war monger. I'm surprised John Bolton and Liz Cheney were so upset with the statement, then... and clearly I'm too stooped to figure it out without you holding my hand

Sorry to hear that - Never took a pain killer in my life so I can imagine thats a doozy for you.

I'm very confused by this line of questioning. I went over specifically what he said and then I interpreted what I believe is the true meaning. I literally did it just a page or two ago. Treating me like the leftists is something I suppose you can try to do but its not going to work.
 
You can have both of these beliefs simulataneously.

1 - Trump messed up the COVID response
2 - Desantis challenge during COVID was infinitely easier than what Trump had to faCE

Maybe maybe not. I fondly remember RDS getting KILLED for his actions from the press. He was getting killed from President Fauci. And he was getting killed from Vice President Trump.

And he stood strong. Unlike Vice President Trump - who bent over.

Results on the field and all that jazz. I don't have your confidence that Trump suddenly grew a spine
 
you made a declarative statement.

I asked you for evidence of this.

You have two responses since providing no evidence. This has been your MO lately... no substance at all.

please provide the evidence that Karl Rove and Paul Ryan are running RDS's campaign

I remember people asking me for evidence that natural immunity was better than vax. I remember the same asks for about preferential treatment within the FBI. And so on and so on....

I told you that they won't make this very well known at this stage because its a death knell in the primary.

I've also told everyone that I'm not a prophet. I just have great judgement on who to get information from.
 
Maybe maybe not. I fondly remember RDS getting KILLED for his actions from the press. He was getting killed from President Fauci. And he was getting killed from Vice President Trump.

And he stood strong. Unlike Vice President Trump - who bent over.

Results on the field and all that jazz. I don't have your confidence that Trump suddenly grew a spine

Its not about a spine - Its about the same approach to COVID for all states made no sense.

Florida was a piece of cake because of their built in advantage. The whole state is basically built up the last 50 years and it was built to protect old people from disease.
 
I remember people asking me for evidence that natural immunity was better than vax. I remember the same asks for about preferential treatment within the FBI. And so on and so on....

I told you that they won't make this very well known at this stage because its a death knell in the primary.

I've also told everyone that I'm not a prophet. I just have great judgement on who to get information from.

it seems to me you are just projecting nonsense and stating them as facts

I'm open to this being true. where did you get this information? I will review it as well and see if we agree
 
Its not about a spine - Its about the same approach to COVID for all states made no sense.

Florida was a piece of cake because of their built in advantage. The whole state is basically built up the last 50 years and it was built to protect old people from disease.

So why was Vice President Trump so critical of RDS with his approach in FL?
 
it seems to me you are just projecting nonsense and stating them as facts

I'm open to this being true. where did you get this information? I will review it as well and see if we agree

Steve Bannon and his guests. Yes - He is pro-trump and you'll dismiss it because of that. I know where to get information that is useful.

Pretty sure even Alex Jones has been saying the same thing lateliy as well but not 100% on that.
 
So why was Vice President Trump so critical of RDS with his approach in FL?

Because Trump made mistakes during COVID.

Maybe his thinking was that the rest of the states would have a harder time instituting policies that were better for their circumstances.

Again - TRUMP MESSED UP COVID RESPONSE.

But getting FLorida right didn't take a brain surgeon.
 
I will paste the statement once again... please hold my hand and educate. Which part of this is screaming war monger to you? Because you are declaratively stating as a fact that he is a war monger based on this statement.

“While the U.S. has many vital national interests – securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Communist Party – becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them. The Biden administration’s virtual “blank check” funding of this conflict for “as long as it takes,” without any defined objectives or accountability, distracts from our country’s most pressing challenges.

Without question, peace should be the objective. The U.S. should not provide assistance that could require the deployment of American troops or enable Ukraine to engage in offensive operations beyond its borders. F-16s and long-range missiles should therefore be off the table. These moves would risk explicitly drawing the United States into the conflict and drawing us closer to a hot war between the world’s two largest nuclear powers. That risk is unacceptable.

A policy of “regime change” in Russia (no doubt popular among the DC foreign policy interventionists) would greatly increase the stakes of the conflict, making the use of nuclear weapons more likely. Such a policy would neither stop the death and destruction of the war, nor produce a pro-American, Madisonian constitutionalist in the Kremlin. History indicates that Putin’s successor, in this hypothetical, would likely be even more ruthless. The costs to achieve such a dubious outcome could become astronomical.

The Biden administration’s policies have driven Russia into a de facto alliance with China. Because China has not and will not abide by the embargo, Russia has increased its foreign revenues while China benefits from cheaper fuel. Coupled with his intentional depletion of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and support for the Left’s Green New Deal, Biden has further empowered Russia’s energy-dominated economy and Putin’s war machine at Americans’ expense.

Our citizens are also entitled to know how the billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars are being utilized in Ukraine.

We cannot prioritize intervention in an escalating foreign war over the defense of our own homeland, especially as tens of thousands of Americans are dying every year from narcotics smuggled across our open border and our weapons arsenals critical for our own security are rapidly being depleted."
 
We cannot prioritize intervention in an escalating foreign war over the defense of our own homeland, especially as tens of thousands of Americans are dying every year from narcotics smuggled across our open border and our weapons arsenals critical for our own security are rapidly being depleted."[/B]

Man, you are too funny.

This is the the statement that I basically summarized and told you that is still meant he is fine to wage war when things are going well (a la Iraq in 03).
 
Steve Bannon and his guests. Yes - He is pro-trump and you'll dismiss it because of that. I know where to get information that is useful.

Pretty sure even Alex Jones has been saying the same thing lateliy as well but not 100% on that.

Yeah see this is the problem...

A trump supporter (and I like Bannon) saying it is true - without offering any proof of this - is not good enough for me.

It shouldn't be good enough for you.

You should prioritize facts and evidence to inform your opinion. You saying this as a fact on this board is posting misinformation... this is why you've begun behaving like our leftist friends.

be better.

but I'm happy to watch any interview you can send me to evaluate the evidence myself. My quick searching after your declarative statement showed me no such evidence
 
Yeah see this is the problem...

A trump supporter (and I like Bannon) saying it is true - without offering any proof of this - is not good enough for me.

It shouldn't be good enough for you.

You should prioritize facts and evidence to inform your opinion. You saying this as a fact on this board is posting misinformation... this is why you've begun behaving like our leftist friends.

be better.

but I'm happy to watch any interview you can send me to evaluate the evidence myself. My quick searching after your declarative statement showed me no such evidence

If you don't believe that Bannon and his guest know whats happening behind the scenes then thats fine. You are entitled to that opinion. Its just going to end up being wrong much more than its right.
 
Man, you are too funny.

This is the the statement that I basically summarized and told you that is still meant he is fine to wage war when things are going well (a la Iraq in 03).

We cannot prioritize intervention in an escalating foreign war over the defense of our own homeland,

seems really smart to me. you disagree?

especially as tens of thousands of Americans are dying every year from narcotics smuggled across our open border

weird you cut this out of his sentence.

and our weapons arsenals critical for our own security are rapidly being depleted."

is this the line? how does this differ from Trump's stance that we needed to bulk up our weapons, planes, and ships to have the most powerful military in the world?
 
If you don't believe that Bannon and his guest know whats happening behind the scenes then thats fine. You are entitled to that opinion. Its just going to end up being wrong much more than its right.

it appears to me your entire worldview is scripted from team trump

your talking points have aligned exactly with them.

the attacks on his wife. the deismps insult. the establishment accusations... Paul Ryan and Karl Rove...

all of these new informed opinions came from team trump. what does thethe think? because I asked you for evidence of the Karl Rove thing and the best you gave me was "Steve Bannon said so"
 
seems really smart to me. you disagree?



weird you cut this out of his sentence.



is this the line? how does this differ from Trump's stance that we needed to bulk up our weapons, planes, and ships to have the most powerful military in the world?

We need a massive deterrent globally. Thats always been the right policy. Trump had that deterrent and didn't start any wars while he wiped out ISIS in an amount of time nobody thought possible.

YOu are actually leaving out my actual analysis. Desantis is putting war on hold because there are issues that are hurting us here. Great, thats a good stance. But he is leaving it open that if there weren't issues then war is fine.
 
it appears to me your entire worldview is scripted from team trump

your talking points have aligned exactly with them.

the attacks on his wife. the deismps insult. the establishment accusations... Paul Ryan and Karl Rove...

all of these new informed opinions came from team trump. what does thethe think? because I asked you for evidence of the Karl Rove thing and the best you gave me was "Steve Bannon said so"

I haven't attacked his wife. But its well known (especially from former staffers that cycle over as much as Trumps did) that his wife holds a great amount of power.

And yes - Steve Bannon knows these things. Unless of course you think he doesn't. That won't be a good position to take over time.
 
We need a massive deterrent globally. Thats always been the right policy. Trump had that deterrent and didn't start any wars while he wiped out ISIS in an amount of time nobody thought possible.

YOu are actually leaving out my actual analysis. Desantis is putting war on hold because there are issues that are hurting us here. Great, thats a good stance. But he is leaving it open that if there weren't issues then war is fine.

dude... Im gonna hold your feet to the fire.

you said that line is proof that he's a war monger.

he said nothing that Donald Trump hasn't said. Trump built up our weapons with trillions of spending. Biden has been giving them away. And RDS said our weapons are being depleted.

seriously what the **** is your issue with this? you are just hating on the guy to hate. The reason I wanted you to post the exact phrase you had issue with, is because I wanted to show you that you are reading what you want to read.

I’m going to make our military so big, so powerful, so strong, that nobody — absolutely nobody — is gonna to mess with us

^ that's a line from Donald Trump

RDS is now saying our defense weapons are being depleted and you're saying he's a war monger?
 
I haven't attacked his wife. But its well known (especially from former staffers that cycle over as much as Trumps did) that his wife holds a great amount of power.

And yes - Steve Bannon knows these things. Unless of course you think he doesn't. That won't be a good position to take over time.

I think it's disingenuous of you to post on here as a fact that Karl Rove is running his campaign. You shouldn't post deza like that. you can speculate, and that's fine... but just be aware that your opinions are being formulated from the tv box telling you
 
dude... Im gonna hold your feet to the fire.

you said that line is proof that he's a war monger.

he said nothing that Donald Trump hasn't said. Trump built up our weapons with trillions of spending. Biden has been giving them away. And RDS said our weapons are being depleted.

seriously what the **** is your issue with this? you are just hating on the guy to hate. The reason I wanted you to post the exact phrase you had issue with, is because I wanted to show you that you are reading what you want to read.



^ that's a line from Donald Trump

RDS is now saying our defense weapons are being depleted and you're saying he's a war monger?

No I said he was a war monger because he specifically said getting into these conflicts while issues at home are bad doesn't make sense. He basically said that its fine to go to war if the homeland is better.
 
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