2024 Field

chop2chip said:
Read the book, man. Actually very interested to hear your thoughts on it.

I promise you it’s right up your alley.
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I’ll do what I can and I genuinely enjoy our back and forths. When not being a crackhead on this forum I’m pretty busy. Great things happening for me professionally.
 
thethe said:
I’ll do what I can and I genuinely enjoy our back and forths. When not being a crackhead on this forum I’m pretty busy. Great things happening for me professionally.
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If you took 5% of the time you spent posting, you’d finish it in a week
 
sturg33 said:
it is my sincerest hope we don't elect the person who handed over the presidency to a medical beaourocrat again... but I don't think we thethe and I can even agree on that these days
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bureaucrat is a tough one

it might help to remember it comes from the french word for desk: bureau
 
I wouldn't say Trump is being "petty" as y'all call it. I would have told the guy to go jump in a lake.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pr...opeful-daniel-kelly-distances-trump-rcna77295

"Daniel Kelly, the conservative candidate in the race that will determine ideological control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, said he isn’t looking for an endorsement from former President Donald Trump in the final days of the campaign.

And if Trump were to issue one anyway, Kelly’s campaign wouldn’t necessarily welcome it."

"Asked if he would welcome one, Kelly responded, "We’d have to take a look at it and see what message that would be sending"
 
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Garmel said:
I wouldn't say Trump is being "petty" as y'all call it. I would have told the guy to go jump in a lake.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pr...opeful-daniel-kelly-distances-trump-rcna77295

"Daniel Kelly, the conservative candidate in the race that will determine ideological control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, said he isn’t looking for an endorsement from former President Donald Trump in the final days of the campaign.

And if Trump were to issue one anyway, Kelly’s campaign wouldn’t necessarily welcome it."
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We’re not looking for one,” Kelly said in an interview Wednesday, responding to a question about whether there was a last-minute Trump endorsement in the works. “I’m not really looking for endorsements from political actors.”

Asked if he would welcome one, Kelly responded, "We’d have to take a look at it and see what message that would be sending."
 
sturg33 said:
a friendly reminder.

this is the person who is going to beat the communists. build the necessary coalitions to tear down the system and drain the swamp

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Hmmm. Willis has been interviewing Loeffler and Perdue. Those two sold their souls for him. Wonder if they will continue to do so.
 
Wisconsin’s whole election process has been subverted. Don’t expect any GOP favorable results in the near future.
 
chop2chip said:
We’re not looking for one,” Kelly said in an interview Wednesday, responding to a question about whether there was a last-minute Trump endorsement in the works. “I’m not really looking for endorsements from political actors.”

Asked if he would welcome one, Kelly responded, "We’d have to take a look at it and see what message that would be sending."
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Pretty condescending to me.
 
Garmel said:
Pretty condescending to me.
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He coulda told Trump to **** himself and if Trump believed he could have reversed the results of the election, but chose not to, he's a piece of ****

Instead Wisconsin now has a Soros funded justice... and Trump kind really needs to win Wisconsin to have a chance in 2024.

Just horrific strategy

(the reality is Trump's endorsement would not have mattered)
 
sturg33 said:
He coulda told Trump to **** himself and if Trump believed he could have reversed the results of the election, but chose not to, he's a piece of ****

Instead Wisconsin now has a Soros funded justice... and Trump kind really needs to win Wisconsin to have a chance in 2024.

Just horrific strategy

(the reality is Trump's endorsement would not have mattered)
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He got beat down pretty hard so I don't think anyone could have saved him. However, making comments like this before an election might have doomed him with MAGA. If you want to talk about bad strategy that was it. Yeah, Trump shouldn't have ranted but this dude was stupid.
 
chop2chip said:
He was asked in the context of why Trump hadn’t endorsed him. What’s he’s supposed to say?
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The way he stated "We’d have to take a look at it and see what message that would be sending" sounds to me like he'll take the endorsement if he's sure it'll help and if it doesn't look like it he won't accept. It would have been better if he had given more detail to what he meant because at first look it seems condescending. Just my opinion of course but I'm willing to bet MAGA wasn't happy with that comment.
 
Garmel said:
He got beat down pretty hard so I don't think anyone could have saved him. However, making comments like this before an election might have doomed him with MAGA. If you want to talk about bad strategy that was it. Yeah, Trump shouldn't have ranted but this dude was stupid.
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It's not about the ranting (which is always pathetic)

The election was stolen in places like Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, right?

Ok trumps entire focus should be on building coalitions of allies and a ground game of institutional support in these areas.

Well let's take a look at his strategy.

Georgia - after 2020, while still trying to the results overturned, he told his supporters to not bother voting in the runoff. And was glad that perdue and Loefler lost after the fact. In 2022, his handpicked endorsed candidate was practically braindead - which doesn't matter for leftists voters but still does for adults. And he lost again. The one person who has shown the ability to win is Kemp, who trump despises and relentless trashes him

Arizona - two thethe approved soldiers running for major power offices in 2022. Trump, sitting on a mountain of cash, gives Lake and Masters not a single penny of it. They lose... Or I should say, it was stolen, and they are not in power. The person who oversaw the corrupt elections is now the governor of a state trump needs to not be stolen again

Pennsylvania - trumps handpicked candidates get slaughtered. Oz was a complete joke, but got the trump approval because he kissed his ass. He lost to a braindead communist. His handpicked candidate for governor also lost

Wisconsin - we have litigated this. Good luck stopping stolen elections. Trump didn't get his ass kicked so he told his cult to stay home. Good luck on 2024

Or how about Florida... Trump's best success story, something he could be proud of his apprentice being so successful... Instead has relentlessly attacked the most popular and powerful GOP governor in the country... Alienating a ****ton of people, and refusing to work with him and his team ever again. Again, making his road to election substantially more difficult

All of these decisions have resulted in terrible outcomes for America. And he and his cult tells us that he is the country first president. **** that. He is trump first, trump only, and continues to display that every day

And beyond hurting America, he has kneecapped his ability to win in 2024... And when he loses again, we get hurt again, and have to deal with four more years of dealing with screaming into the void about he how is actually the president

His drama just isn't worth it when we aren't getting any results. And we aren't getting any results anymore
 
Garmel said:
The way he stated "We’d have to take a look at it and see what message that would be sending" sounds to me like he'll take the endorsement if he's sure it'll help and if it doesn't look like it he won't accept. It would have been better if he had given more detail to what he meant because at first look it seems condescending. Just my opinion of course but I'm willing to bet MAGA wasn't happy with that comment.
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You'll notice the article doesn't give the full quote, and even actually summarizes what he said vs verbatim quoting

I'm sure it was meant to be portrayed as him not wanting trump and trump is so easy to bait it worked like a charm
 
This is literally what he's saying

And the cult is pissed at us for pointing this out, vs pissed at the man who believes he intentionally cost conservatives an important election.

Staggering devotion

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sturg33 said:
It's not about the ranting (which is always pathetic)

The election was stolen in places like Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, right?

Ok trumps entire focus should be on building coalitions of allies and a ground game of institutional support in these areas.

Well let's take a look at his strategy.

Georgia - after 2020, while still trying to the results overturned, he told his supporters to not bother voting in the runoff. And was glad that perdue and Loefler lost after the fact. In 2022, his handpicked endorsed candidate was practically braindead - which doesn't matter for leftists voters but still does for adults. And he lost again. The one person who has shown the ability to win is Kemp, who trump despises and relentless trashes him

Arizona - two thethe approved soldiers running for major power offices in 2022. Trump, sitting on a mountain of cash, gives Lake and Masters not a single penny of it. They lose... Or I should say, it was stolen, and they are not in power. The person who oversaw the corrupt elections is now the governor of a state trump needs to not be stolen again

Pennsylvania - trumps handpicked candidates get slaughtered. Oz was a complete joke, but got the trump approval because he kissed his ass. He lost to a braindead communist. His handpicked candidate for governor also lost

Wisconsin - we have litigated this. Good luck stopping stolen elections. Trump didn't get his ass kicked so he told his cult to stay home. Good luck on 2024

Or how about Florida... Trump's best success story, something he could be proud of his apprentice being so successful... Instead has relentlessly attacked the most popular and powerful GOP governor in the country... Alienating a ****ton of people, and refusing to work with him and his team ever again. Again, making his road to election substantially more difficult

All of these decisions have resulted in terrible outcomes for America. And he and his cult tells us that he is the country first president. **** that. He is trump first, trump only, and continues to display that every day

And beyond hurting America, he has kneecapped his ability to win in 2024... And when he loses again, we get hurt again, and have to deal with four more years of dealing with screaming into the void about he how is actually the president

His drama just isn't worth it when we aren't getting any results. And we aren't getting any results anymore
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While I agree that RDS is the better selection some of what you are saying here isn't true. First of all you're taking a left wing source what Trump said about the Georgia senators as absolute fact. Why in the world would you do that? Also, Trump never told the Georgia voters to stay home.
 
sturg33 said:
I'm sure it was meant to be portrayed as him not wanting trump and trump is so easy to bait it worked like a charm
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You back up point on how stupid this was to do. You think that didn't have any affect on MAGA voters?
 
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