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[sturg33]

We are hiring now and the last thing I’m thinking about is what school they went to or what degree they have.

What prigramming languages do you know?

Tell me some excel templates you’ve made and what problems did they solve?

Can you speak to me like a real person?

EVERYTHING else can be taught on site.

Anecdotally, I feel a shift in momentum happening right now.

Progressives (the young Turks!) are speaking out about the gender insanity

People are acknoledging the DEI grift (see my last post in TLHLIM)

My extremely progressive company is cutting back on DEI investments

I was recently on a sales call with a big four consultant, and our marketing team was highlighting our training and skill development courses on ESG. The CLO said "I appreciate that but in 2023 our focus is shifting more towards hard skills... As that is what we are hearing from our clients. The demand for ESG training has really softened from our clients"

Blew.me away but I was ecstatic to hear it.

As we approach a troubled economic environment, it's apparent to me that serious people are now focusing on actual issues, not delusional ones to placate to mentally insane leftists.

 

[chop2chip]

My day job is working in Ed tech industry and I can say with certainty that people and companies are rapidly turning away from college degrees and focusing heavily on skill development

The university sector will need to start showing results and ROI or it will eventually die. And I don't think they have the capacity to pivot

I still think the university system still provides a lot of value simply as a screening mechanism.

Sure… someone can be self taught, hard working, and ambitious. But as an employer, how do I know that? There’s only so much you can learn in a job interview, and there’s a clear bias towards extroverts.

If you went a top university (which presumably had its own sorting process), earned a high GPA, and did an internship/clubs etc, then I can feel confident I’m taking less of a risk than I would be if I hired John who watched some YouTube videos.

 

[thethe]

Anecdotally, I feel a shift in momentum happening right now.

Progressives (the young Turks!) are speaking out about the gender insanity

People are acknoledging the DEI grift (see my last post in TLHLIM)

My extremely progressive company is cutting back on DEI investments

I was recently on a sales call with a big four consultant, and our marketing team was highlighting our training and skill development courses on ESG. The CLO said "I appreciate that but in 2023 our focus is shifting more towards hard skills... As that is what we are hearing from our clients. The demand for ESG training has really softened from our clients"

Blew.me away but I was ecstatic to hear it.

As we approach a troubled economic environment, it's apparent to me that serious people are now focusing on actual issues, not delusional ones to placate to mentally insane leftists.

As they say. Good times being weak men.

When things are going too well the stupid people can even make money.

The push against ESG and wokeness led by figures like Trump/Desantis/Matt Walsh/Chris Rudo have been amazing and we will look back on this moment as a time of true courage against an absolutely warped insane ideology that was close to taking over the western world.

 

[sturg33]

I still think the university system still provides a lot of value simply as a screening mechanism.

Sure… someone can be self taught, hard working, and ambitious. But as an employer, how do I know that? There’s only so much you can learn in a job interview, and there’s a clear bias towards extroverts.

If you went a top university (which presumably had its own sorting process), earned a high GPA, and did an internship/clubs etc, then I can feel confident I’m taking less of a risk than I would be if I hired John who watched some YouTube videos.

I think that was more true even 15 years ago.

But now universities are publicly declaring that they are removing standards of merit for admission.

And a friend of mine who works in HR at AWS told me that college grads are a nightmare these days with their demands of inclusion and safe spaces... And nobody willing to come into office any more.

I dunno. Could be an old man yelling at clouds but I just think colleges have ruined their reputation and I know for certain that major corporations are beginning to shift away from college degree requirements for new hires.

That's a great thing. As I hope it is a wake up call to the university system to get it's **** together

 

[thethe]

I still think the university system still provides a lot of value simply as a screening mechanism.

Sure… someone can be self taught, hard working, and ambitious. But as an employer, how do I know that? There’s only so much you can learn in a job interview, and there’s a clear bias towards extroverts.

If you went a top university (which presumably had its own sorting process), earned a high GPA, and did an internship/clubs etc, then I can feel confident I’m taking less of a risk than I would be if I hired John who watched some YouTube videos.

I’ve proposed a college like program at actual companies Expand unpaid internships to replace colleges for good. Kids pay to go to school. Now you are learning for free! Companies benefit too. You can easily remove the people that don't want to work hard and cultivate at an earlier age.

Give me a math mind that knows algebra and I can make them a very good data analyst.

 

[nsacpi]

I appreciate the consideration.

I’m not suggesting that rural areas are without their shortcomings. The small town caste system is alive and well which I think partially contributes to people leaving. (What incentive do you have to stay home and work for the local small business when the boss is just going to give the promotions to his kids). The anonymity working for a corporation in big city has its benefits.

Small towns just simply aren’t interested in growing. When I go home to visit…. (which is a pain in the ass mind you - blue counties should be lauded for their abundance of airports)… my mom wants to complain about how busy the intersection is where they added a new stop light.

I am actually very fond of small towns. Now that I am teaching at a school in flyover country, I spend some time on weekends driving to some of the out of way places. They all have something to offer. Often an outstanding non-chain ice cream place.

 

[sturg33]

I’ve proposed a college like program at actual companies Expand unpaid internships to replace colleges for good. Kids pay to go to school. Now you are learning for free! Companies benefit too. You can easily remove the idiots and cultivate at an earlier age.

Give me a math mind that knows algebra and I can make them a very good data analyst.

My last company created a 6 months boot camp for kids with no college degree, but if they graduated, would be hired as a full time engineer.

Kids had to be 18-22 years old.

We did about 150 cohorts twice per year.

We paid them a $60k annualized salary. If they graduated, would be hired for $104K, compared to college grads engineer salary of $124k

We had about a 70% graduation rate.

And better yet, those graduates had better performance reviews than their campus (college grads) peers did.

A huge success story and as far as I know they have expanded it further since I left

 

[sturg33]

My last company created a 6 months boot camp for kids with no college degree, but if they graduated, would be hired as a full time engineer.

Kids had to be 18-22 years old.

We did about 150 cohorts twice per year.

We paid them a $60k annualized salary. If they graduated, would be hired for $104K, compared to college grads engineer salary of $124k

We had about a 70% graduation rate.

And better yet, those graduates had better performance reviews than their campus (college grads) peers did.

A huge success story and as far as I know they have expanded it further since I left

And they had to have a really strong math skillset as part of the interview.

To be clear, we weren't just bringing in random joes for this.

 

[chop2chip]

I think that was more true even 15 years ago.

But now universities are publicly declaring that they are removing standards of merit for admission.

And a friend of mine who works in HR at AWS told me that college grads are a nightmare these days with their demands of inclusion and safe spaces... And nobody willing to come into office any more.

I dunno. Could be an old man yelling at clouds but I just think colleges have ruined their reputation and I know for certain that major corporations are beginning to shift away from college degree requirements for new hires.

That's a great thing. As I hope it is a wake up call to the university system to get it's **** together

No doubt. I’m worried higher education lacks the self reflection to understand their place in the value chain.
Nascpi would know better than me but I would guess academics see their mission statement is to create great thinkers. That’s fine as long as it doesn’t come in conflict with what pays the bills which is preparing young people for the workforce. I would be concerned with the reputation of entitlement this younger generation has earned.

 

[thethe]

My last company created a 6 months boot camp for kids with no college degree, but if they graduated, would be hired as a full time engineer.

Kids had to be 18-22 years old.

We did about 150 cohorts twice per year.

We paid them a $60k annualized salary. If they graduated, would be hired for $104K, compared to college grads engineer salary of $124k

We had about a 70% graduation rate.

And better yet, those graduates had better performance reviews than their campus (college grads) peers did.

A huge success story and as far as I know they have expanded it further since I left

Its the only way to go. These colleges stopped being serious a while ago. They are actually hurting more people than helping at this time.

 

[nsacpi]

Nascpi would know better than me but I would guess academics see their mission statement is to create great thinkers.

I don't think so. Great thinkers should be nurtured to be sure. But so should others students. Universities devote far more resources to students that need various kinds of support than they do to their star students.

 

[nsacpi]

I would be concerned with the reputation of entitlement this younger generation has earned.

I don't see this at all. My students are mostly business school students but i get some liberal arts students as well. They are almost uniformly well-brought up young people without any misplaced sense of entitlement. A credit to their parents.

 

[thethe]

I don't think so. Great thinkers should be nurtured to be sure. But so should others students. Universities devote far more resources to students that need various kinds of support than they do to their star students.

A shame this is how it operates.

 

[sturg33]

A credit to their parents.

You just endorsed white supremacy, according to academia

 

[chop2chip]

I don't see this at all. My students are mostly business school students but i get some liberal arts students as well. They are almost uniformly well-brought up young people without any misplaced sense of entitlement. A credit to their parents.

Whether it’s earned or not is irrelevant. It’s still the reputation. From some of the podcasts I’ve listened to that have touched on this subject (I believe the very excellent Derek Thompson had this as a topic recently), the reputation of entitlement has increased with every generation.

I am skeptical that companies will change hiring practices though. I suspect it’s easier to adapt to the expectations to the next labor class than it is to radically change who is hired.

 

[sturg33]

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[sturg33]

Remember when idiot leftists let an actual insurrection happen in this city that resulted in murder, rape, and filth and didn't stop until it reached the mayors neighborhood?

Everything the left touches turns to complete ****

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[57Brave]

Considering the past 10 days in Nashville, once we get this gun and
white supremacy thing straightened out, could we please deal with this ?

why do these over sized station wagon / grocery getters need to use up so much space and energy ?

 

[sturg33]

Considering the past 10 days in Nashville, once we get this gun and
white supremacy thing straightened out, could we please deal with this ?

why do these over sized station wagon / grocery getters need to use up so much space and energy ?

You've expressed more anger about this vehicle than you have about leftists mutilating children, which you fully support

 

[thethe]

You've expressed more anger about this vehicle than you have about leftists mutilating children, which you fully support

They want to kill our children. That’s why there shouldn’t be any hesitation to absolutely destroy this ideology and their followers.