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Mistake after mistake after mistake.

When you surround yourself with the same Never Trump group that still doesn't understand why they didn't win the nomination in 2016 this is what happens.

Trumps only chance of avoiding a prison cell is RDS winning the nomination

Faucis only chance of dying in a prison cell is RDS winning the nomination.
 
Trumps only chance of avoiding a prison cell is RDS winning the nomination

Faucis only chance of dying in a prison cell is RDS winning the nomination.

Sure - You keep repeating it until you believe it.

But deep down you know Trump won in a landslide in 2020 and all the current polling has him AHEAD of where he was for the whole 2020 cycle.
 
I would be happy to bet you any sum of money that you would like that Vivek doesn't beat RDS in this primary

Would you like?

Bets are not of interest to me - Don't gamble on anything except the occasional craps bender when in Vegas.

The only thing that matters is who is right or wrong to me and thats all I need. We will see how this develops over time.
 
Sure - You keep repeating it until you believe it.

But deep down you know Trump won in a landslide in 2020 and all the current polling has him AHEAD of where he was for the whole 2020 cycle.

I don't know what would be in my best interest to lie to myself.

Trump was unable to stop his ousting when he had the full the power of the white house.

Today he has the full power of the white house against him while fighting multiple law suits and a bu ch of precious voters who are fed up with him
 
Bets are not of interest to me - Don't gamble on anything except the occasional craps bender when in Vegas.

The only thing that matters is who is right or wrong to me and thats all I need. We will see how this develops over time.

Seems like easy money for you since it's so obvious.
 
I don't know what would be in my best interest to lie to myself.

Trump was unable to stop his ousting when he had the full the power of the white house.

Today he has the full power of the white house against him while fighting multiple law suits and a bu ch of precious voters who are fed up with him

Great - Vote your conscious in the 2024 election. Live with your choice. It won't be Trumps fault or Trump voters that you have hurt feelings and can't make the right decision.
 
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Desantis MAY do better in AZ/GA than Trump (debatable) at the risk of the whole rust belt being toss up to lean/strong D.

Notice how Bidens vote share doesn't change when its against desantis - Its just plenty of low propensity/Trump only voters will stay home. The story of the 2008/2012 elections.
 
Great - Vote your conscious in the 2024 election. Live with your choice. It won't be Trumps fault or Trump voters that you have hurt feelings and can't make the right decision.

I believe the right decision is to move on from the failures of Trump and elect someone who has the spine and competence to get the job done.

Nominating Trump is voting for the communists.
 
I believe the right decision is to move on from the failures of Trump and elect someone who has the spine and competence to get the job done.

Nominating Trump is voting for the communists.

Great - Its a free country. When Trump wins the primary by a landslide dont' vote for him in the election. Live with your choice and the consequences. You're so moral!!!

EVERYONE!!! LISTEN UP AND LISTEN GOOD!! STURG IS A GOOD PRINCIPLED MAN AND HE WANTS EVERYONE TO KNOW!!!
 
Great - Its a free country. When Trump wins the primary by a landslide dont' vote for him in the election. Live with your choice and the consequences. You're so moral!!!

EVERYONE!!! LISTEN UP AND LISTEN GOOD!! STURG IS A GOOD PRINCIPLED MAN AND HE WANTS EVERYONE TO KNOW!!!

Sturg not voting for Trump in Texas won't be the reason Trump gets his ass kicked
 
Sturg not voting for Trump in Texas won't be the reason Trump gets his ass kicked

No it won't be but the Never Trumpers that have torpedoed Desantis promising career are doing so with the hope that enough squishy republicans in meaningful states prevent Trump from winning (still dont' think it will).

Thats why the anti-Semite PayDro posted today that even if Trump wins the nomination he will still hammer Trump. Ask yourself why that is. Does he actually want the communists to win the general?
 
No it won't be but the Never Trumpers that have torpedoed Desantis promising career are doing so with the hope that enough squishy republicans in meaningful states prevent Trump from winning (still dont' think it will).

Thats why the anti-Semite PayDro posted today that even if Trump wins the nomination he will still hammer Trump. Ask yourself why that is. Does he actually want the communists to win the general?

I don't see how that is any different than the maga threats that they will sit out for RDS because he's just another uniparty

From what I see, Trump isn't offering a big enough alternative to Biden for me to put up with his BS anymore. He's sprinted to the left this primary and his 2020 is unforgivable until he expresses remorse (and we know he wont). He lies about collusion charges and says life saving legislation is harsh. Additionally, he has made zero changes in election strategy and thus will not win yet again.

Nominating RDS is the only way to keep Trump put of prison and Biden out of the white house. You can reject that notion, but it is reality. This isn't about hurt feelings... it's about being fed up with failure and losing and wanting a massive upgrade. That you settle for and make excuses for such failure and mediocrity is a reflection of your character

Don't worry though... Trump and his team will raise a lot of money off his loss and we can run it back in 2028. Constantly losing is more fun anyway for the Trump cult bc that gives them something to complain about make money from
 
I don't see how that is any different than the maga threats that they will sit out for RDS because he's just another uniparty

From what I see, Trump isn't offering a big enough alternative to Biden for me to put up with his BS anymore. He's sprinted to the left this primary and his 2020 is unforgivable until he expresses remorse (and we know he wont). He lies about collusion charges and says life saving legislation is harsh. Additionally, he has made zero changes in election strategy and thus will not win yet again.

Nominating RDS is the only way to keep Trump put of prison and Biden out of the white house. You can reject that notion, but it is reality. This isn't about hurt feelings... it's about being fed up with failure and losing and wanting a massive upgrade. That you settle for and make excuses for such failure and mediocrity is a reflection of your character

Don't worry though... Trump and his team will raise a lot of money off his loss and we can run it back in 2028. Constantly losing is more fun anyway for the Trump cult bc that gives them something to complain about make money from

Your mistake is you think Trump voters are all Republicans and its the mistake that the RDS campaign (maybe intentionally) is making as well. They are sitting out one because they support Trump and two they don't care for the traditional GOP policy set despite how many times you scream WOKE.
 
Your mistake is you think Trump voters are all Republicans and its the mistake that the RDS campaign (maybe intentionally) is making as well. They are sitting out one because they support Trump and two they don't care for the traditional GOP policy set despite how many times you scream WOKE.

The funny thing about this though is the Trump base loved RDS until November 2022 when Trump instructed them to stop
 
The funny thing about this though is the Trump base loved RDS until November 2022 when Trump instructed them to stop

Yes and then RDS allowed his handlers to morph into the same old 'Never Trump' arguments that the Lincoln project peddled.

You went from 100% KNOWING Trump won in 2020 and it was rigged to saying it wasn't now. If you don't understand where the MAJORITY of the 'Republican' party base is right now I can't help you. You can say we are all cultists or whatever you want but the traditional GOP is no longer a material piece of the puzzle.
 
Yes and then RDS allowed his handlers to morph into the same old 'Never Trump' arguments that the Lincoln project peddled.

You went from 100% KNOWING Trump won in 2020 and it was rigged to saying it wasn't now. If you don't understand where the MAJORITY of the 'Republican' party base is right now I can't help you. You can say we are all cultists or whatever you want but the traditional GOP is no longer a material piece of the puzzle.

Who are his handlers?

Did you see Karl Rove blasted RDS the other day? Tough one for you

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Who are his handlers?

Did you see Karl Rove blasted RDS the other day? Tough one for you

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Ok - EVERYONE outside of the Desantis camp is wrong.

Continue to flip on things like the 2020 election and how good of a president Trump was without understanding how you formed these 'new' opinions (messaging from the RDS campaign). When they dump Desantis and move to Scott or Youngkin we will see what RDS has to say when he returns to Florida and assesses the damage to his once promising career.
 
Ok - EVERYONE outside of the Desantis camp is wrong.

Continue to flip on things like the 2020 election and how good of a president Trump was without understanding how you formed these 'new' opinions (messaging from the RDS campaign). When they dump Desantis and move to Scott or Youngkin we will see what RDS has to say when he returns to Florida and assesses the damage to his once promising career.

Why are you incapable of offering any specifics?

You have asserted for months that Karl Rove is running his campaign. Now Rove is publicly criticizing him?

I still think 2020 was rigged. 100%

My preference is to not nominate the person who signed the CARES ACT to enable the rigging... was too weak to stop it... and has made zero adjustments since. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?
 
Why are you incapable of offering any specifics?

You have asserted for months that Karl Rove is running his campaign. Now Rove is publicly criticizing him?

I still think 2020 was rigged. 100%

My preference is to not nominate the person who signed the CARES ACT to enable the rigging... was too weak to stop it... and has made zero adjustments since. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

You don't care for specifics that I offer. I have learned who knows things and who speaks BS. So I take their words seriously while you think its BS.

But please - Ask me that question a few more times.
 
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