Trade deadline thread

Carp said:
They have plenty of opportunity against WC leaders over the next month and they are close enough to have a legit chance. As has been states many times, their Pythagorean is much better than their current record, so they're certainly capable of getting back into it.
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And it's not like the teams they are chasing are world-beaters. It's a climb, but any one of those teams gets on a roll and the others stumble along, they can put distance between themselves and the pack. Padres are probably the most talented of the group on paper.
 
Carp said:
I'd still like to get a reliever, preferably one with closer experience in case Iglesias gets hurt/sucks it up. And Brad Hand is still my top target here.
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I am fine with Fried/Strider/Morton/Elder rotation going into the playoffs. I dont think anyone we will trade for will be significantly better than Morton/Elder. I want a top end reliever. With the off days in the playoffs they can pitch in almost every game. A starter will at best be our third best SP and only help us in 1 game.
 
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Heading into deadline day, a few thoughts I have.

1. Reliever needs to be addressed, we have a hole there and getting someone wouldn't be a bad call, but I believe as well it's not the end of the world if we don't. I wish we could be players for Verlander but no way would we trade with the Mets for a blue chip piece.

2. An interesting player I think to look into is Alex Verdugo. Sox are making him available, perhaps we could make a deal with Pillar and a prospect for him. Verdugo is the definition of consistent, around 105-110 wRC+ and solid defense in RF. He should be an improvement over Rosario in LF defensively and offensively. Now I wouldn't give up anything significant for him because we're talking a marginal upgrade, going from like a C to a C+. But if the Sox are just looking to get rid of him and not take back a haul, it could be an interesting player to look into.
 
Southcack77 said:
Not dumb at all.
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To reach the playoffs, the Padres would have to fight their way to a spot currently occupied by the Brewers or the Fish who have identical records, 57-49. The Brewers and Fish both have 56 games left.

If they go .500 the rest of the way, they'll finish with records of 85-77.

The Padres are currently 52-54. To tie our hypothetical Brewers and Fish record, they'd have to go 33-23. That's a .589 win percentage. To win outright they'd have to have a .607 win percentage

Currently, only Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and Atlanta have won at a .589 win percentage or better this year.

I don't think San Diego can reasonably expect to play at a .600 win rate the rest of the year. So they'll need other teams to play poorly. The Brewers have the second easiest schedule the rest of the way so they could be hard to catch. Then there's the fact that the Phillies are only 0.5 out in the wild card and are better than either the Brewers or Marlins. There's also the Cubs fighting ahead of you who have almost as good a run differential.

I know why San Diego wants to go for it. It's tempting. But they have to play out of their minds and have teams ahead of them face plant. I don't like their odds.
 
striker42 said:
To reach the playoffs, the Padres would have to fight their way to a spot currently occupied by the Brewers or the Fish who have identical records, 57-49. The Brewers and Fish both have 56 games left.

If they go .500 the rest of the way, they'll finish with records of 85-77.

The Padres are currently 52-54. To tie our hypothetical Brewers and Fish record, they'd have to go 33-23. That's a .589 win percentage. To win outright they'd have to have a .607 win percentage

Currently, only Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and Atlanta have won at a .589 win percentage or better this year.

I don't think San Diego can reasonably expect to play at a .600 win rate the rest of the year. So they'll need other teams to play poorly. The Brewers have the second easiest schedule the rest of the way so they could be hard to catch. Then there's the fact that the Phillies are only 0.5 out in the wild card and are better than either the Brewers or Marlins. There's also the Cubs fighting ahead of you who have almost as good a run differential.

I know why San Diego wants to go for it. It's tempting. But they have to play out of their minds and have teams ahead of them face plant. I don't like their odds.
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Your math is perfect, but I don't think it's a safe assumption that the Marlins and Brewers are locks to play .500 ball the rest of the way. Padres have a line-up that can mash if they mesh and I don't think it's unreasonable that they could play .600 ball for two months. Along with the Cardinals, the Padres are the most puzzling teams of 2023 to me. Both looked to be much better teams.

It's an uphill battle for the Padres, but I wouldn't fall out of my chair if they managed to sneak into the last playoff slot. And they're a team I wouldn't want to face in a short series.
 
I don't see us adding a hitter now that we've traded for Nicky Lopez.. So my top trade targets going into tomorrow are:

SPs
Eduardo Rodriguez. With Stroman and Snell likely staying put, Rodriguez is without a doubt the top starter remaining on the market.

Brady Singer. Buy low candidate with a lot of upside. Results don't quite match his peripherals. FIP of 4.08 suggests we could see a large improvement in the second half.

Jack Flaherty.

Jose Quintana.

Michael Lorenzen. Only concern is that this the most usage his arm has seen since he threw 113 innings as a rookie back in 2015. Should be low cost at the very least, but I would expect some regression as he pushes past his innings ceiling.


Wild Card: Chris Sale. I know he's injured. I know he's got another year left at 27.5 million. But he still has it, imo. And if we can get Boston to kick in enough money, we could potentially get an impact starter for very little acquisition cost.

RPs

Too many options to list but here my favorites:

Brad Hand. Former elite closer. Cheap contract. Left Handed. Perfect fit for our needs, imo.

Paul Sewald.

Brooks Raley
 
50PoundHead said:
Your math is perfect, but I don't think it's a safe assumption that the Marlins and Brewers are locks to play .500 ball the rest of the way. Padres have a line-up that can mash if they mesh and I don't think it's unreasonable that they could play .600 ball for two months. Along with the Cardinals, the Padres are the most puzzling teams of 2023 to me. Both looked to be much better teams.

It's an uphill battle for the Padres, but I wouldn't fall out of my chair if they managed to sneak into the last playoff slot. And they're a team I wouldn't want to face in a short series.
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Padres have an uphill battle to get to that kind of win %.

August:
3 @ COL, 4 VS LAD, 2 @ SEA, 3 @ ARI, 3 VS BAL, 4 VS ARI, 3 VS MIA, 3 @ MIL, 3 @ STL,

September:
4 VS SF, 3 VS PHI, 3 @ HOU, 3 @ LAD, 3 Lightens up September 15th through the end of the season
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
Padres have an uphill battle to get to that kind of win %.

August:
3 @ COL, 4 VS LAD, 2 @ SEA, 3 @ ARI, 3 VS BAL, 4 VS ARI, 3 VS MIA, 3 @ MIL, 3 @ STL,

September:
4 VS SF, 3 VS PHI, 3 @ HOU, 3 @ LAD, 3 Lightens up September 15th through the end of the season
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At the same time, they are facing pretty much all the wild card contenders ahead of them. So they can certainly make up the ground pretty easy if they play well over this stretch.
 
50PoundHead said:
Your math is perfect, but I don't think it's a safe assumption that the Marlins and Brewers are locks to play .500 ball the rest of the way. Padres have a line-up that can mash if they mesh and I don't think it's unreasonable that they could play .600 ball for two months. Along with the Cardinals, the Padres are the most puzzling teams of 2023 to me. Both looked to be much better teams.

It's an uphill battle for the Padres, but I wouldn't fall out of my chair if they managed to sneak into the last playoff slot. And they're a team I wouldn't want to face in a short series.
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I think the Brewers are a good bet to play .500 given their weak schedule. The Phillies are tied with the Brewers and Fish in the loss column and they're a good bet to go .500 as well. I think the Fish faceplant.

I wouldn't fall out of my chair either but I think the Padres are a longshot. I think they have to play .600 ball at least to have a legit chance and asking them to do that for 2 months is tough.
 
What pisses me off the most is the freaking Mets doing the right thing and dumping as much salary as possible.. getting out of those anchor contracts will go a long way in getting back into contention. However, they are the Mets
 
bravesfanMatt said:
What pisses me off the most is the freaking Mets doing the right thing and dumping as much salary as possible.. getting out of those anchor contracts will go a long way in getting back into contention. However, they are the Mets
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Not just that, they're sending cash letting them get a good return. Getting baby Acuna back was a frustratingly good move.
 
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Braves — baseball’s best team — is looking for pitching, including back-end bullpen help. Hader is likely unvailable and Bednar not too likely to move, but if anyone can figure anything out, it’s the Braves.
 
We are looking but we aren't buying. I am telling you.. we are done. Maybe a small move like the Lopez deal.. Just don't see any improvements out there worth the asking price and I don't see AA eating salary to dump someone for the new replacement. He isn't dumping Sorryio.. McHugh, Yates, JJ, Tonkin, Pierce are safe in the pen. Only spot I see is starter but I don't really like any options out there.
 
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