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thethe said:
What are you basing your assessment on that he doesn't have a high level of support?

This should be interesting....
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That he couldn't reach Romney levels of voter share in both of his elections? That he lost to a corpse by a huge margin? That he oversaw huge losses in 2018? That he oversaw losses in 2020? That he oversaw huge underperformance in 2022? That his favorability ratings are near record lows?
 
sturg33 said:
That he couldn't reach Romney levels of voter share in both of his elections? That he lost to a corpse by a huge margin? That he oversaw huge losses in 2018? That he oversaw losses in 2020? That he oversaw huge underperformance in 2022? That his favorability ratings are near record lows?
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VOTER SHARE!

Romeny lost so what does that matter - Dems didn't need to cheat in massive numbers to beat a dead beat eGOP candidate.

But hey - I know you completely flipped on 2020. It is what it is. YOu now believe it was the safest and most secure election in our history.


Where are you getting favorability ratings from? How could you possibly know this?
 
thethe said:
Really?

Do you remember the gains in 2016?

Do you remember the R's winning every toss up in 2020 but somehow 'losing' the presidency? I know you stopped believing in the obvious stolen election to get into your current cult.

I think its you that doesn't see the issue.
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Well I'll slow it down for you.

If you believe there was cheating in 2022... Trump raised $250M between his loss in 2020 and then to overcome it. He clearly failed to overcome it.

If you don't believe there was cheating in 2022, then Trump candidates suffered a historic loss in what should have been a red wave.

Either scenario is failure from the leader of the party
 
sturg33 said:
Well I'll slow it down for you.

If you believe there was cheating in 2022... Trump raised $250M between his loss in 2020 and then to overcome it. He clearly failed to overcome it.

If you don't believe there was cheating in 2022, then Trump candidates suffered a historic loss in what should have been a red wave.

Either scenario is failure from the leader of the party
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Do you think Maricopa country machines broke on election day as a normal procedure?

Explain how you can fight election integrity when you don't control the state apparatus.
 
Still waiting to hear how you know that the Republicans have an all time lead on the economy and that Trumps favorability is at an all time low.

How can I find that?
 
So which is it - Are polls accurate or are they bull****?

And which polls can I take meaning from and which can I not?
 
thethe said:
So which is it - Are polls accurate or are they bull****?

And which polls can I take meaning from and which can I not?
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I'm speaking to you in the only thing you care about. Which are polls.

It's literally the entirety of the Trump campaign. Polls.

Are you rejecting these numbers?
 
This whole time I thought polls were bull****. I was reliably informed of this recently.

What has changed?
 
sturg33 said:
I'm speaking to you in the only thing you care about. Which are polls.

It's literally the entirety of the Trump campaign. Polls.

Are you rejecting these numbers?
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No - of course I'm not rejecting those numbers. I've never once rejected the numbers or the story the analysis shows.

I'm just wondering why you believe these polls and not others.

Because if you want to believe these polls and all you care about is winning then you would NEVER support Desantis over Trump.

But we all know now that winning isn't really all that matters to you. You have a 15 year old girl grudge for some reason right now and its pathetic. And when you become irrational like a 15 year old girl you rag on polls and then quote things without realizing from polls as if they are accurate.
 
Should we get the RCP average on the election?

Does an average of all polls matter Sturg?

I'm trying to understand your rules right now.
 
thethe said:
Are you going to answer the first question or just avoid it because you now you have completely flip flopped on everything as part of your cult?
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The first question was that Trump raised 250m for election integrity that he failed to overcome.

You avoided that cimpletely and then asked me about Maricopa.

I would like to know about the 250m that Trump raised for election integrity. What did he spend it on?

(Also, as an aside... this is confusing for cult members... but not being in your cult does not make one in a cult)
 
sturg33 said:
The first question was that Trump raised 250m for election integrity that he failed to overcome.

You avoided that cimpletely and then asked me about Maricopa.

I would like to know about the 250m that Trump raised for election integrity. What did he spend it on?

(Also, as an aside... this is confusing for cult members... but not being in your cult does not make one in a cult)
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I don't know what he has spent it on but I know that the biggest election integrity issue right now this country has ever faced is that the uniparty is trying to prevent the overwhelming favorite from being allowed to run. So if he spends every penny on his defense then in reality the money is being allocated to the exact purpose it was raised for.

So now answer my question - was the 22 election in Arizona fair?
 
But whenever you can - Let me know which polls are allowed to be discussed and which aren't.

That would be helpful moving forward.
 
thethe said:
Should we get the RCP average on the election?

Does an average of all polls matter Sturg?

I'm trying to understand your rules right now.
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It is not my problem that you are too stupid to understand my position after stating it over and over for you.

Let me slow it down for you, 57

1. Trump is the overwhelming favorite to win the nomination. Always has been. This is based on polling, his name recognition, his victim hood. And other factors. It would be an enormous chokejob for him to lose. I have hope because he tends to only lose though.

2. Polls are not votes in a primary. The primary is not based on polls but based on votes. I have not been polled, nor have I had a chance to vote, so as far as I'm concerned, my voice has not been represented in this process and I sure as hell would like it to be
 
sturg33 said:
It is not my problem that you are too stupid to understand my position after stating it over and over for you.

Let me slow it down for you, 57

1. Trump is the overwhelming favorite to win the nomination. Always has been. This is based on polling, his name recognition, his victim hood. And other factors. It would be an enormous chokejob for him to lose. I have hope because he tends to only lose though.

2. Polls are not votes in a primary. The primary is not based on polls but based on votes. I have not been polled, nor have I had a chance to vote, so as far as I'm concerned, my voice has not been represented in this process and I sure as hell would like it to be
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So you think the polls are off by how many precentage points in the primary?

I hope you feel better pulling the lever for Desantis when he loses every state by 30+. What a thrill!

But how about the general election? How off are those polls?
 
thethe said:
I don't know what he has spent it on but I know that the biggest election integrity issue right now this country has ever faced is that the uniparty is trying to prevent the overwhelming favorite from being allowed to run. So if he spends every penny on his defense then in reality the money is being allocated to the exact purpose it was raised for.

So now answer my question - was the 22 election in Arizona fair?
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But he wasn't being indicted between 2020 and 2022... so what the **** did he raise all that money for?

Does it not insult you that he did literally nothing to ensure Kari Lake was able to win her election?

As for the Arizona race... I don't know enough about it. Seems to me some shady **** happened again. The GOP is retarded for not going all in on mail in ballots (Lake advised her supporters to vote in person).

I like Blake Masters a lot and he conceded that he lost fair and square... I trust him a lot more than Lake.
 
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