Is Free Speech Under Attack in this Country?

chop2chip said:
I read the first couple pages and it’s made me so sad. It’s a rare occurrence on this board where basically everyone acknowledged the problem and worried about the slippery slope we were walking on.

Seven years later we have folks actively celebrating government speech suppression.

Covid really broke us
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Where do you think society started deciding free speech shouldn't be protected?

There are two big ones to me

Academia - college kids and college educated are against free speech protection at a much higher rate than non

Declining white population. Last I saw, white people are the only racial demographic that majority supports absolute free speech protection
 
The Tariff King said:
Ferguson did late late for 7 years I think.

And his formula was so different from everyone else. His interviews often had zero to do with promoting movies or music. He would just flirt and talk to guests and make them laugh.

The best is when he’d have frlllow British comedians on and they’d just shoot the shit about anything.
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That's because he largely made it like Panel Shows in the UK.

Which is largely what Carson did. There still were bits and scripts and so on so forth, and it's why I love Conan, he would shoot the shit for 5 minutes than do promo for 2.
 
sturg33 said:
Where do you think society started deciding free speech shouldn't be protected?

There are two big ones to me

Academia - college kids and college educated are against free speech protection at a much higher rate than non

Declining white population. Last I saw, white people are the only racial demographic that majority supports absolute free speech protection
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The internet, social media in particular, has changed fundamentally society’s relationship with speech. Picking one specific moment that has led us to our current landscape, it was probably when facebook launched the news feed and the personal became societal. Prior to that you could be Wilbo and Gatom and say literally anything on a message board and only us weirdos here would even hear about. Now any post on any platform could theoretically became national news and we are just not equipped to deal with that.
 
Metaphysicist said:
The internet, social media in particular, has changed fundamentally society’s relationship with speech. Picking one specific moment that has led us to our current landscape, it was probably when facebook launched the news feed and the personal became societal. Prior to that you could be Wilbo and Gatom and say literally anything on a message board and only us weirdos here would even hear about. Now any post on any platform could theoretically became national news and we are just not equipped to deal with that.
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Without a doubt it’s this.

We can quibble until we’re red in the face what symptoms of this phenomenon have been most destructive, but communicating without the face to face filter has been corrosive
 
Metaphysicist said:
The internet, social media in particular, has changed fundamentally society’s relationship with speech. Picking one specific moment that has led us to our current landscape, it was probably when facebook launched the news feed and the personal became societal. Prior to that you could be Wilbo and Gatom and say literally anything on a message board and only us weirdos here would even hear about. Now any post on any platform could theoretically became national news and we are just not equipped to deal with that.
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Ignoring the part of the picture that represents the lefts incredibly ability to be offended by anything and everything feels like missing a big part of the puzzle.
 
thethe said:
Ignoring the part of the picture that represents the lefts incredibly ability to be offended by anything and everything feels like missing a big part of the puzzle.
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The right cancelled Cracker Barrel over a boring corporate rebrand.
 
thethe said:
Yes the right is now employing the same tactics. Just without the homocidal tendencies.
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Krgrecw said:
You had no problem with Disney when they cut ties with Roseanne over her ‘speech and jokes’. Why is there a problem now?
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Generally, I defer to businesses when it comes to them doing what is best for their brand and shareholders.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1968668665248649625

Okay, but what do we actually do here? Let Jimmy Kimmel sue the government for damages? Because I don’t really care what happens to Jimmy Kimmel. We need Congress to collectively grow a fucking spine and tell the Trump Admin to stop their attack dogs or they’ll just fucking impeach them.

Dems didn’t have the spine the past few years, maybe this Republican majority somehow will.
 
Nah they don’t want to deal with the people who voted for them being pissed off that they’re giving Trump a hard time. Until he’s gone he’ll run the party.
 
Man the mashups on the libs crying about free speech and Kimmel then showing their own comments about shutting down free speech a few years ago is so great.

Just…. So perfect
 
chop2chip said:
I have no faith the Left will restrain itself when back in power regardless of what the Right does. So the Right should while in power:

Pass laws that protect speech
Defang the executive branch
Prosecute those that violate free speech rights

This is an example where you don’t have to “do nothing”. You can carry a sword to protect citizens rights
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I wouldn’t shed a tear if the FCC went the way of the dodo, either
 
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