Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009347042909585449

"I can say, unequivocally, that if you did the same thing the ICE officer in Minneapolis did, you would be found guilty of a crime, and your claim of self-defense would be rejected outright."

I think Justin is correct in this assessment. If two neighbors had a similar interaction with the same video evidence, the shooter would undoubtedly be under arrest right now.
 
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The legal threshold as Justin Amash notes is the same for everyone. I would argue that as a matter of public policy we should hold trained law enforcement to a higher standard that some rando private citizen. Not that this will happen in this situation. But when I interact with a police officer I expect more professionalism and self-control out of them than some rando stranger.

As I said, I don't expect this administration to even approach that. I doubt the officer will be put on administrative leave pending an investigation. And I don't think there will be an investigation. There will be a circling of the wagons.
 
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nsacpi said:
The legal threshold as Justin Amash notes is the same for everyone. I would argue that as a matter of public policy we should hold trained law enforcement to a higher standard that some rando private citizen. Not that this will happen in this situation. But when I interact with a police officer I expect more professionalism out of them than some rando stranger.
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And what if you’ve been following and badgering him all day?
 
nsacpi said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2009347042909585449

"I can say, unequivocally, that if you did the same thing the ICE officer in Minneapolis did, you would be found guilty of a crime, and your claim of self-defense would be rejected outright."

I think Justin is correct in this assessment. If two neighbors had a similar interaction with the same video evidence, the shooter would undoubtedly be under arrest right now.
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But that isn’t the situation at all. It’s not a shock that amash misses the mark
 
zitothebrave said:
How do you know she wasn't?
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I’ll see if you can read this right.

Was she with the kid during the super scary ice raids ? So scary she needed to burnout a car toward them to escape ?

No she was yelling at ice agents instead. It’s a choice, not one good parents make
 
nsacpi said:
The public pays his salary. And is entitled to an expectation he will show restraint and professionalism even in those circumstances.
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Restraint when being ran over by a car in a climate where people are encouraging the murderring of ice agents.
 
Tapate50 said:
When a car burns out toward him then collides with him?

That a high bar of restraint
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I've had cars turn in a way that made me think they might hit me. Enough so that I've made a quick move to avoid getting hit. If I had shot the driver under those circumstances I'd be in jail.
 
nsacpi said:
I've had cars turn in a way that made me think they might hit me. Enough so that I've made a quick move to avoid getting hit If I had shot the driver under those circumstances I'd be in jail.
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Omg - you actually believe this is the same thing.
 
Supposedly the two kids she had from a prior relationship are custodied with the father. Do you know how terrible of a mother you have to be to lose a custody battle? Or maybe she didn’t even want the kids.

This woman seems like a real treat.
 
thethe said:
Omg - you actually believe this is the same thing.
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To be fair, I've never held my camera out to record at close range a car that might be moving toward me. So I will concede that the cases where I thought a car might hit me were different in some details.
 
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