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Very Long term view is correct. Realistically we are not contending in 2017 and probably not 2018 given what's currently in the system. By that point, Julio could have been injured, his production could have declined, the market could change, etc. It's not like Julio being in the rotation...

Coppy just reiterated that tehe isn't moving. Hope this is because he can't get what he wants and not a stubbornness due to the new park.

With the market the way it is, I would think JT/Viz could net Benin/Devers/+. But I assume you are correct that BOS would hang tight or offer something like that for Sale. I would not move JT to Boston without benintendi coming back.

True. Personally I'm just jealous Frazier moved and it wasn't to us

Would you rather eat Upton's contract or maximize return for Kimbrel? I personally would rather have Upton and players like Frazier/Sheffield than Wisler/Riley. We've used that Upton money in some ways I know, but attaching the contract to Kimbrel killed the return.

Hopefully the price for SP stats the same in the offseason. My personal preference is to trade JT+ to BOS for a package headlined by benintendi/devers. Obviously don't know if Boston would entertain, but would immediately fill 2 long term holes.

And yes, I am a little jealous of what the yanks got for chapman and miller given we have Wislee to show for moving Kimbrel

Way too early to tell and too many moves left to make to determine what the next few years holds. I think the idea of competing in '17 wasn't and isn't realistic. While its been fun to follow the rebuild, I also don't think we have maximized the potential returns in our trades, aside from the...

No way to know if they are. Will have to wait and see if and when SP starts to move. But I hope they haven't made JT untouchable and are open to moving him.

I don't want him to take a so so offer; we've done that plenty in this rebuild. If miller gets you Frazier and Sheff, and Chap gets Gleyber and McKinney, then Julio will command a haul. I honestly think Coppy refuses to trade JT due to the current rotation and Suntrust opening. Given the amount...

This team is not winning next year or the next with Or without Julio. Maximize his value in a thin SP market. We can no doubt get 4 or 5 long term pieces for him at this deadline. We have massive holes at C, 3B, OF long term and Julio is our only reliable rotation arm. Use Julio to fill some of...

I love the idea of adding Lucroy, but in reality, adding a 30 year old C with one year remaining on his contract while dealing away multiple top 20 prospects is not a wise play. If we were in the hunt the next 2 years like CLE, I'm all in. But with no extension, I can't see the reasoning in...

I don't think Atlanta was on his no-trade list.

Yanks get McKinney, Gleyber, Frazier, Sheffield for Miller and Chapman. Braves get Wisler for Kimbrel. Fail. Should have eaten Upton's contract, and maximized Kimbrels value. I think we would all rather have Frazier, Sheffield, Upton than Wisler, Riley.

Love the trade. Loved it more when I thought we were paying $14m per year instead of $18m, but the Braves just added a power bat to the middle of the lineup for someone that will never play in Atlanta and was dead money. Now copy needs to go trade markakis, Johnson, frenchy, krol, beckham...

Seems like a good trade. Real interested to know the PTBNL. That will ultimately determine how good this thing is. Surely that won't be a real significant piece.

+1000. It's embarrassing. And I know Anthony is saying all the right things, but you know in private he's livid and/or disappointed. He was ready to report for pro baseball, and had the rug pulled out from under him. You have to feel for the kid.

It is a big deal in that they made an offer to a kid and rescinded; its bad business. It's a professional organization with many educated individuals working in the front office. To make this blunder is laughable and shameful. I understand there are cap limitations and plenty of fluid parts in...

Auburn beat reporter tweeting that Antbony confirmed offer was pulled because it would have put the Braves over the cap. Shameful

Lewis signed for $3.2 million. Would he not have taken that from us at 3?