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Both sides hate the deal. Probably a fair trade.........for now anyway.

Well, Angels fans aren't happy either, fwiw.

Of course not. But if the medical staff had correctly diagnosed him, he could have been placed on 60 day DL instead of being released. The downside there would have been minimal, imho. You've spent the money, so you could have seen what he had in Spring Training.

Why? Was there ever any indication that missing the postseason one year after winning the division would cost him his job? I would have been very, very surprised if he had been fired.

Exactly. If MLB were fixed for ratings, the Red Sox and the Yankees (especially the Yankees, this year) would be in the postseason - or better yet, they would be the 2 wild card teams. Instead, it will be KC/OAK......yeah, that sounds fixed. :facepalm:

You said you didn't agree with the strategy, yet you are defending it. Losing a game that goes to extra innings without using your best pitcher is simply poor strategy. It's a tie game - use your best pitcher if he is available.

Clint Hurdle often doesn't do it. Coincidentally, his team is about to pass the Braves in standings....

Most do. Some don't. And even if they did, that doesn't make it right.

The best part about losing this game will be that our best pitcher will not see any action.......cuz that's what Fredi's book says to do when tied on the road in extra innings.

He should. Walking the leadoff man with a 2-run lead is a recipe for disaster.

1. Yes 2. Yes 3. No 4. No 5. Yes 6. 3 7. 5 8. 7 9. 2 10. 5 11. 3

I love this thread. People are bashing Fredi for leaving Minor in too long and others are bashing Fredi for taking him out too soon.

Wow, several championships? That's great. We've probably got more World Series titles than the Yankees. It's too bad the Braves don't get more respect nationally for all of the championships. You are living in a fantasy world. In one sentence you bad mouth the Yankees and say their...

LOL. The pattern is the Braves usually lose in the playoffs and that frustrates you. That's quite a conspiracy theory though. Sorry that the Giants lost today though, I guess the league office forgot to tell the Cubs that they were supposed to lose that game.

Has there ever been a protest involving a ventilation system? I would guess a protest would be upheld if a team could show that there were unfair conditions. Nothing. Of course, that isn't the same as the Cubs/Giants situation. Maybe if we let the Cubs ground crew make up their own strike...

Of course it is. Do you not see the difference between the umpire making a mistake on a judgment call and the home ground crew allowing the field to be flooded when their team is ahead by 2 runs?

They certainly would have lost the game if Uggla were still in their lineup.

Not properly covering the field during a downpour is part of the game? C'mon. That was a fair ruling. If the Giants end up 1 game ahead of the Braves, this will be way down on the list of reasons, imho.

Braves, when Dan Uggla starts: 21-12 Braves, when Dan Uggla is on the bench: 32-31 Braves, without Dan Uggla on the roster: 8-17

I was at the game and was wondering about this. Was any explanation given as to why we would both wasting another reliever to come in and face another team's closer?