116th Congress

Katrina vandenHeuvel
@KatrinaNation


Don’t Fall for Trump’s Lie. Democrats Have Been Very Productive//.

Mitch McConnell and other Senate Republicans have blocked almost

everything House Democrats have passed.


via
@thenation
 
57Brave said:
Katrina vandenHeuvel
@KatrinaNation


Don’t Fall for Trump’s Lie. Democrats Have Been Very Productive//.

Mitch McConnell and other Senate Republicans have blocked almost

everything House Democrats have passed.


via
@thenation
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This is pretty funny. I remember the same kind of stuff being said when Boehner was speaker of the Republican controlled house, Reid was majority leader of the Senate, and Obama was president. The House kept passing all kinds of things that were never taken up by the Senate. The Republicans leveled the same kind of complaints.

But never fall for this "productive" or "obstructionist" narrative. A ton of the bills being passed by the Dems aren't real attempts at making law. They're political moves. Some of it is people wanting to polish their voting record so they can run on it back home, some of it is trying to fulfill campaign promises, and a lot of it is just a political ploy to try to get people to buy what this person is, the narrative of obstructionism and productivity.

You still see real attempts at making law. Spending bills are common. The process with them is quite different. They're worked on by both parties, there's communication between the two houses of Congress. There's even communication with the White House. The mountain of bills coming out of the house is not a real attempt at legislation though.

It's funny, I'm finally reaching the point in life where I'm seeing the cycles from start to finish. It never ceases to entertain me when people cry because the other party did something one day and then cheer when their party does it the next.
 
striker42 said:
This is pretty funny. I remember the same kind of stuff being said when Boehner was speaker of the Republican controlled house, Reid was majority leader of the Senate, and Obama was president. The House kept passing all kinds of things that were never taken up by the Senate. The Republicans leveled the same kind of complaints.

But never fall for this "productive" or "obstructionist" narrative. A ton of the bills being passed by the Dems aren't real attempts at making law. They're political moves. Some of it is people wanting to polish their voting record so they can run on it back home, some of it is trying to fulfill campaign promises, and a lot of it is just a political ploy to try to get people to buy what this person is, the narrative of obstructionism and productivity.

You still see real attempts at making law. Spending bills are common. The process with them is quite different. They're worked on by both parties, there's communication between the two houses of Congress. There's even communication with the White House. The mountain of bills coming out of the house is not a real attempt at legislation though.

It's funny, I'm finally reaching the point in life where I'm seeing the cycles from start to finish. It never ceases to entertain me when people cry because the other party did something one day and then cheer when their party does it the next.
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The House under Boehner tried to repeal ACA about 100 times.
 
The Chosen One said:
The House under Boehner tried to repeal ACA about 100 times.
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Yep. What's interesting is when the Republicans had the House, Senate, and White House, they were much more cautious about it. They passed those bills knowing none of them had a chance of becoming law so they didn't have to worry about backlash, side effects, etc. That kind of stuff is what the House does.
 
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I’ve always known that Libertarianism has always been a cover for white supremacy and plutocracy. It has never been about freedom from the tyranny of the rich, just the opposite. To them, “ Big Government” means progressive ideas and policies that help to create economic, environmental, and social justice, and a large and vibrant middle-class(socialism), ideas they, “Libertarians,” abhor. My sincerest sympathies go to Rand’s neighbor.
 
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Senator Collins doesnt understand why she is losing in the polls after previously winning reelection by 36 points. If Democrats take the Senate theres a little bit of hope for me but I already know some Democrats are going to hold that legislation hostage to get reparations which will ensure Republicans fight it to the bitter end. God help me if they pass it and Biden vetos it.
 
57Brave said:
I’ve always known that Libertarianism has always been a cover for white supremacy and plutocracy. It has never been about freedom from the tyranny of the rich, just the opposite. To them, “ Big Government” means progressive ideas and policies that help to create economic, environmental, and social justice, and a large and vibrant middle-class(socialism), ideas they, “Libertarians,” abhor. My sincerest sympathies go to Rand’s neighbor.
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Or, you know, libertarians believe that "progressive ideas & policies" don't lead to those outcomes. But let's just slap a white supremacy accusation on them and move on.
 
acesfull86 said:
Or, you know, libertarians believe that "progressive ideas & policies" don't lead to those outcomes. But let's just slap a white supremacy accusation on them and move on.
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I’d probably put “progressive ideas and policies” up against libertarianism, with the test being economic, social, and environmental justice.
 
Julio3000 said:
I’d probably put “progressive ideas and policies” up against libertarianism, with the test being economic, social, and environmental justice.
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Great. Reasonable folks can disagree. My response is more to the unreasonable folks (like the one I responded to, who has also posted that all Republicans are Nazis), who write it off as just a "cover for white supremacy."
 
Jake Sherman

@JakeSherman


NEWS —
@GOPLeader
KEVIN MCCARTHY told Republicans that he is opposed to the Democrats

coronavirus bill, a blow to hopes for biparitsanship and perhaps a harbinger

for the bill’s prospects in the GOP Senate.

The WH has made its preference clear, but this is a bad sign.

Justice Democrats Retweeted




Jon Favreau

@jonfavs
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This bill contains:
- free coronavirus testing
- paid emergency medical leave
- extended unemployment insurance
- food assistance
- help for health care workers

by all means, let's not politicize
 
March 12 2020, 6:27 p.m.

REP. MATT GAETZ, R-Fla., decided to self-quarantine this week after coming in contact with an individual who tested positive for a novel coronavirus, which causes the disease Covid-19, at the Conservative Political Action Conference late last month.

But Gaetz’s decision to take time away from his job at Congress without the fear of losing pay or being fired is a right few Americans share. In fact, Gaetz voted to prohibit Florida residents from sharing that right.


https://theintercept.com/2020/03/12/matt-gaetz-florida-paid-sick-leave-coronavirus/
 
Theres a lot of degrees of Libertarian. Yes if you go to the extreme you get anarchists but thats just to Libertarians what Socialism is for Democrats. Most dont want full blown socialism its just a matter of to what degree. Me personally as a Libertarian I am fine with taxes and government I just want my money spent efficiently and those given government authority to be held accountable to the law/constitution. Pure Libertarianisim is cool and all but no one gets the ideal system they want and its unreasonable to think we will. For me supporting Bernie Sanders is all about compromise. Advances one part of the Libertarian goal while I have full confidence Bernie's economics would never pass Congress. Biden advances no part of my Libertarian goals.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Theres a lot of degrees of Libertarian. Yes if you go to the extreme you get anarchists but thats just to Libertarians what Socialism is for Democrats. Most dont want full blown socialism its just a matter of to what degree. Me personally as a Libertarian I am fine with taxes and government I just want my money spent efficiently and those given government authority to be held accountable to the law/constitution. Pure Libertarianisim is cool and all but no one gets the ideal system they want and its unreasonable to think we will. For me supporting Bernie Sanders is all about compromise. Advances one part of the Libertarian goal while I have full confidence Bernie's economics would never pass Congress. Biden advances no part of my Libertarian goals.
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By “Libertarian goals” you mean creating a cover for your white supremacy, of course
 
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