119th Congress or Red Wave In Adult Land
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This is just shameless boot-licking nonsense. Blowing up a few civilians in the name of stopping terrorists has basically been our country’s day job since 9/11.
He’s been an active participant. This isn’t controversial. He did drone strikes and the like just as the others did.
acesfull86
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https://reason.com/2025/10/08/the-c...uspected-drug-smugglers-to-smithereens/?nab=0
The blow-them-to-smithereens crowd, at this point, will loudly voice their opinion that people in international waters whom we label as terrorists deserve no due process. Vice President Vance asserts: "There are people who are bringing—literal terrorists—who are bringing deadly drugs into our country."
Which, of course, raises the questions:
The mindless trolls that occupy much of the internet whine that such questions show weakness or commiseration with drug pushers who are killing our kids. A ludicrous assertion to most sentient humans, but one I fear requires a response.
International law and norms have always granted due process to individuals on the high seas not actively involved in combat. U.S. maritime laws explain in detail the level of force and the escalation of force allowed in the interdiction of drugs.
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I agree with Rand
The blow-them-to-smithereens crowd, at this point, will loudly voice their opinion that people in international waters whom we label as terrorists deserve no due process. Vice President Vance asserts: "There are people who are bringing—literal terrorists—who are bringing deadly drugs into our country."
Which, of course, raises the questions:
- Who labelled them and with what evidence?
- What are their names, and what specifically shows their membership and guilt?
The mindless trolls that occupy much of the internet whine that such questions show weakness or commiseration with drug pushers who are killing our kids. A ludicrous assertion to most sentient humans, but one I fear requires a response.
International law and norms have always granted due process to individuals on the high seas not actively involved in combat. U.S. maritime laws explain in detail the level of force and the escalation of force allowed in the interdiction of drugs.
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I agree with Rand
El Salvador isn’t bombing the citizens of other nations. I of course have my own opinions on other things El Salvador is doing, but people less squishy than me on how we handle crime can still recognize that discrepancy.
They broke 'laws' to better the world for their citizens.
You can spin it any way you want.
We will not allow barbarians to control the way we live. These actions undoubtedly make things better for law abiding US citizens regardless of what you want to say.
Did El Salvador do things that would make people like you and Aces uncomfortable? Absolutely - The people of El Salvador are thrilled they were done and now they actually have a good future.
I would hate to live in a box like some of you do.
They aren’t breaking into people’s homes and shooting them up with drugs. We control the way we live.
But even then, what a country does domestically is different than what a country does with its military. Venezuelans didn’t vote for this and can’t vote against it. If we treat the protection of our own citizens as an end to which all means can be justified by it, we’d might as well just start bombing everybody. Scarcity isn’t as bad if there’s fewer humans, right?
acesfull86
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Why would I give a shit about El Salvador’s lack of living up to the standards of the United State’s respect for due process and rule of law? One has nothing to do with the other and I have no interest in rebuilding the United States in the image of El Salvador.
What’s the crime rate in North Korea? Thethe so so thirsty for an authoritarian strongman.
What’s the crime rate in North Korea? Thethe so so thirsty for an authoritarian strongman.
Yes - North Korea totally the same thing here. And I'm sure the crime rate in North Korea is massive but whatever dude.
Live in a box....
Very much not the point.
PLUS! This is all part of a greater MAGA strategy which is an extension of the Monroe Doctrine. The Western Hemispere is ours. Leaders like Bukele will be instrumental in that plan but moving forward we will not tolerate states like Brazil that are just vassals to the CCP.
It might surprise you to learn that not everyone is on board with the MAGAized Monroe Doctrine.
It should not surprise you that MAGA is continuing to grow their majorities and when your sides cheating (Illegals voting / bullshit census / etc..) is over then we will be 60% of the country.
Maybe even more as Trumps policies take hold and we are all better off.
As for the other countries - We are the US. We don't care and will make their lives better.
But don’t you dare call this ideology fascist in nature!