2014 Roster & Payroll

BlackwaterPark said:
David Price needs to be in a Braves uniform by Spring Training...
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THIS times a million

Get us an ace to go with Minor, Medlen, Teheran, and Wood. Would be set for years. Build the offense around Freeman-Heyward-Uptons-Gattis. Easier said than done though regarding Price..because of his price.
 
Boy, our team would have looked a lot different if we had given Victorino 3/39 instead of BJ 5/75.

Wow....
 
Tapate50 said:
Boy, our team would have looked a lot different if we had given Victorino 3/39 instead of BJ 5/75.
Wow....
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Yeah. But was anyone arguing strongly for Victorino last year? I had both him and BJ on a very short list of guys we should pursue to play center but did not feel strongly about one over the other.
 
Hudson2 said:
Gattis would get the Rays attention.
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I think so. They are probably aware that the Royals overpayed to get Shields. They have a smart and realistic front office. I think they would seriously consider Gattis and Medlen for Price. They might ask for Minor rather than Medlen because of the two extra years of contractual control.
 
nsacpi said:
I think so. They are probably aware that the Royals overpayed to get Shields. They have a smart and realistic front office. I think they would seriously consider Gattis and Medlen for Price. They might ask for Minor rather than Medlen because of the two extra years of contractual control.
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Only issue with giving up Gattis is, then what's our catching situation for next year? Price is almost a must for us, we'll have him for 2 years, but I think we learned how important a bonafide ace is to have in the playoffs, especially the short series (or wild card game).

If that's not an option, I'd love to take a shot on Josh Johnson on a 1 year deal. Even with his poor season last year, he still averaged over a K an inning, and he's turning 30. Seems like someone who would thrive on our team and return to ace form.
 
While the specific names can be argued, the overall costs to fill those spots on the roster seem about right. For example, I see no reason to pay Schafer $1M when Reed and Heyward can both play CF, and Constanza is waiting in AAA in a pinch. I would much rather see a real LHed Hinske-type bench bat brought in. I also doubt it costs $4M to keep EOF and Venters around coming off TJ (second one for Venters). If it does cost anywhere near that much I think I have to pass on both.

The only way I see Mac coming back is if Gattis is traded for a young stud to play 2B. Maybe a deal centered around Gattis for Profar? Wren would obviously have to add assets, but Gattis would be the centerpiece.

It may sound nuts, but there is an off chance some "Uggla money" could be freed up to make a run at Cano. It is about the same slim chance that the Braves had at signing Holliday a few years ago, but the tiny chance is there nonetheless. If the payroll bumps up to the $110M range, paying Cano $20M per year suddnely becomes only 18% of the payroll and doesn't sound quite so outlandish.

Bottom line is that Wren MUST fix 2B this offseason. He has the resources to get a significant player, so he needs to get it done. Anything less than a near all-star level player at 2B next season should be viewed as a failure on Wren's part.
 
nsacpi said:
The upside on Josh Johnson can't be ignored either. Given the choice between Huddy and Josh Johnson, I'd have to lean toward Johnson. Assuming the cost is reasonable.
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I suggested bringing in JJ on a 1 year deal earlier this week. He is Wren's only real shot at bringing in an Ace from outside the organization. Halliday might also be a possibility.
 
Let McCann walk and see what it would take to get an ace. I would trade a ton for Price if we're allowed to negotiate with him.
 
The sequencing is tricky. I don't see us trading Gattis until McCann or some other catcher is signed. It would be reckless to trade him without an alternative in place.
 
I think we need to be careful not to make many changes. This team won 96 games and it was a very injury plagued season. Who knows how many games we would have won if Huddy, EOF, Venters, Beachy, Heyward, etc...didnt miss a ton of time. Also factor in Dan Uggla and BJ Uptons terrible seasons and its crazy how this team won 96 games.

I am willing to bet anyone on here that BJ Upton will have a very good season next year. If that happens, that just makes us even better whether Mac returns or not. Thats why I want to keep it as simple as possible.

We have a great nucleus already. Lets focus on keeping them around for a while, while adding pieces around them that arent too costly. I said earlier to sign David Price, but I see that hes not a free agent. I would not trade the farm for him.
 
nsacpi said:
The sequencing is tricky. I don't see us trading Gattis until McCann or some other catcher is signed. It would be reckless to trade him without an alternative in place.
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If McCann is re-signed, im all for Gattis being traded to try and acquire an ace.
 
I'd sign AJ Pierzynski on a one year deal to platoon with Gattis.

Josh Johnson is cooked.

I'd agree with BJ if Heyward declined an extension, I'd consider trading him.

Bring back EOF and Venters and stash on the DL.
 
nsacpi said:
I think so. They are probably aware that the Royals overpayed to get Shields. They have a smart and realistic front office. I think they would seriously consider Gattis and Medlen for Price. They might ask for Minor rather than Medlen because of the two extra years of contractual control.
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Gattis and Medlen isn't getting Price, that's laughable.

And no way on Minor for Price unless Price signs an extension.
 
I think the projected payroll is low about 4-5 million but we should still have 15-20 mill to spend. The main problem us that we could be adding that much just in arb raises after the 2014 season.

I agree about going after Price. The Rays had worse attendance than expected and will be cutting payroll so there is little doubt he will be traded. I think they will want Alex Wood. If Wren parts with him I think a deal can get done. They will not want arbitration players like Medlen and Minor as center pieces of the deal. I expect them to want either Gattis ir Bethancourt. On top of that I expect them to ask for one if the low upside guys in the high minors like Terd, Pastor, La Stella, or Schafer and then one of the A ball high upside guys like Peraza, Cabrera, or Simms. Now we could always trade Kimbrel or someone else for prospects and use then in this trade as well.

Look at what other teams who will persue Price have to offer, that's what we have to beat. The Rays will want platers that they have control of for a long time but who are major league ready as well.
 
Heyward said:
Gattis and Medlen isn't getting Price, that's laughable.

And no way on Minor for Price unless Price signs an extension.
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So Gattis and Medlen for Price and Gattis and Minor for Price are "ain't no ways" tho for different reasons. Interesting.
 
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