2015 June Draft Results Thread

jpx7 said:
Well, you seem to grumble like this in every single dispute, so I'd like to read which debates meet your wondrous validity-threshold.

Moreover: saying "they should've taken hitter because they're a better bet" is not simply "silly," as plenty of intelligent people—people outside this board, who've been cited, and who are paid for their analysis (and are, hence, professionals)—have argued and evinced as much, at least on the whole. Now, for the Braves' organization specifically, who knows: that's what we're ostensibly here to debate.

But if you're not here for those sorts of debates, I'm not sure what you are here for—Fearless Leader isn't dipping into our dues-pool anytime soon, and certainly not to invest you with a Silly-Disagreement Sheriff silver-star.
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you're clearly missing the point. it's the constant tone of "WOW wrong choice what are they doing are they thinking don't they know anything?" it's one thing to have a debate. it's another to whine or disagree with every. single. move. and when you do, yes, I assume you think you know better. plenty of people here thought they knew better this off-season and a majority were wrong. so let's continue with that.
 
gilesfan said:
So if the "if you have putchers, you can trade for hitters" is accurate, why isnt the reverse true?

Obviously, you need balance, but we arent balanced righr now. Position players are scare.

I believe the best strategy is to load up on hitters and use them and free agency to acquite pitchers if need be. If you take 10 pitchers and 2 work out, thats a lot of wasted resources. Chances are more than 2 out of 10 hitters work out.
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Just me but I'd prefer to have all the inside info and data on my pitchers I was keeping/shipping out instead of buying a commodity without that info when you talk about arms and how they were treated Coming along. They are awful volatile to buy without the scoop.
 
I just got home. I was vocal about my opposition to selecting a pitcher at 14, and even I'm ok with taking Allard there. The bats I wanted (Happ, Stephenson, Randolph, Whitley) were all gone, and Allard is the best HS pitcher in the draft and could have easily gone 7-8 picks higher. Had one of those bats been there and we took Allard, I wouldn't be happy, but as it fell, it was the right move.

Now, I definitely want some high-upside bats early, though. We better take a bat here at 28.

And before I'm able to post, we take another pitcher. I am NOT a fan of that. The Allard pick is ok to me, but continuing to draft pitching is just stupid.

I'll only be ok with that pick if we sign him for under slot and luck out and can get Cameron at 41.
 
jpx7 said:
Well, you seem to grumble like this in every single dispute, so I'd like to read which debates meet your wondrous validity-threshold.

Moreover: saying "they should've taken hitter because they're a better bet" is not "just silly," as plenty of intelligent people—people outside this board, who've been cited and linked, and who are paid for their analysis (and are, hence, professionals)—have argued and evinced as much, at least on the whole. Now, for the Braves' organization specifically, who knows: that's what we're ostensibly here to debate.

But if you're not here for those sorts of debates, I'm not sure what you are here for—Fearless Leader isn't dipping into our dues-pool anytime soon, and certainly not to invest you with a Silly-Disagreement Sheriff silver-star.
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Hes hear to be insulted at everything I say. Clearly I explain my reasoning for what I believe. However, somehow hes a better poster without ever posting anything with a shred of intelligence. I bet 90% of his posts are simply whining about other posters. This has been pointed out several times
 
smootness said:
I just got home. I was vocal about my opposition to selecting a pitcher at 14, and even I'm ok with taking Allard there. The bats I wanted (Happ, Stephenson, Randolph, Whitley) were all gone, and Allard is the best HS pitcher in the draft and could have easily gone 7-8 picks higher. Had one of those bats been there and we took Allard, I wouldn't be happy, but as it fell, it was the right move.

Now, I definitely want some high-upside bats early, though. We better take a bat here at 28.

And before I'm able to post, we take another pitcher. I am NOT a fan of that. The Allard pick is ok to me, but continuing to draft pitching is just stupid.

I'll only be ok with that pick if we sign him for under slot and luck out and can get Cameron at 41.
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Clean up please. Yeezus we have a clean up..aisle smootness.
 
gilesfan said:
Hes hear to be insulted at everything I say. Clearly I explain my reasoning for what I believe. However, somehow hes a better poster without ever posting anything with a shred of intelligence. I bet 90% of his posts are simply whining about other posters. This has been pointed out several times
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lmao irony.
 
Tapate50 said:
Just me but I'd prefer to have all the inside info and data on my pitchers I was keeping/shipping out instead of buying a commodity without that info when you talk about arms and how they were treated Coming along. They are awful volatile to buy without the scoop.
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Thats fine if u think that. Not sure i agree that there is top secret info tho.
 
gilesfan said:
So if the "if you have putchers, you can trade for hitters" is accurate, why isnt the reverse true?

Obviously, you need balance, but we arent balanced righr now. Position players are scare.

I believe the best strategy is to load up on hitters and use them and free agency to acquite pitchers if need be. If you take 10 pitchers and 2 work out, thats a lot of wasted resources. Chances are more than 2 out of 10 hitters work out.
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Even so that should really only be a general philosophy. You don't just pass on any starting pitcher just because you want a position player. I get what you are arguing, but it just seems incredibly shallow to just blindly say you would only take a position player.
 
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