2016 Election Coverage: Aka Every Way You Look at it You Lose.

[gilesfan]

Its almost close to a lock now. Trump gonna make america great again

 

[Julio3000]

So with Hillary projected to win Virginia and Colorado, she's held onto 2 of her Firewall states. I think Pennsylvania is likely hers as well. Looks pretty good as long as she holds Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota in the midwest

That looks like a big ask right now.

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

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[zitothebrave]

Trump and Hillary separated by just 20k vores in VA with 7 percent left to be counted. Did they call it too soon for Hillary?

MAybe. But realize that when they call states it's based off a **** ton of things from previous voting records and exit polls and tons of stuff. You don't see these get flipped too often anymore. It can happen, but I think it settles with Clinton winning by a percentage point or 2.

 

[weso1]

NY times 73% Trump

548 72% Clinton

wut?

The NYT algorithm is not accurate. 538 is still on track.

 

[Carp]

And they're in areas she has about a 2-1 advantage over Trump. No one is calling Florida yet for a reason.

I rather doubt she holds a 2-1 advantage much of anywhere in FL.

 

[gilesfan]

I trust 538 implicitly

You realize its only called states on 538? when they call Florida, it is gonna to swing.

 

[sturg33]

Honestly electoral math still looks good for HRC...

But I give a lot of weight to the financial markets and the betting markets.

And they're pointing to Trump now

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

What this is showing is how much many Americans cannot stand Hillary Clinton. She may still win, but she would not be a popular president.

 

[acesfull86]

Nate Silver says 60% HRC...seriously considering betting on her if the betting markets are really swinging that far in his favor.

 

[zitothebrave]

That looks like a big ask right now.

Indeed. Losing Michigan would be huge. She'd have to win NC or FLorida then. Her losing Michigan isn't as bad as Trump losing Florida whic Basically would sink him, but it's a threat.

 

[weso1]

538 is 55/44 Clinton right now.

 

[gilesfan]

Nate Silver says 60% HRC...seriously considering betting on her if the betting markets are really swinging that far in his favor.

i would not. If she loses Florida, shes a big dog.

 

[MrShwag]

November SURPRISE (not for me).

 

[sturg33]

Fox bringing up a good point... the pain of Obama care is real and may be being reflected now

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

Fox bringing up a good point... the pain of Obama care is real and may be being reflected now

I heard the same thing and I completely agree

 

[Krgrecw]

Same here

What this is showing is how much many Americans cannot stand Hillary Clinton. She may still win, but she would not be a popular president.

I think there's more to it than that. Working class whites are pissed about our current PC culture and big government.

 

[sturg33]

i would not. If she loses Florida, shes a big dog.

He needs a lot more than Florida...

but the Virginia numbers tell me that every place is going to be better for Trump than the polls showed

 

[weso1]

i would not. If she loses Florida, shes a big dog.

Trump still has to win Nevada and NH if he doesn't pull off a shock in the midwest.

 

[zitothebrave]

You realize its only called states on 538? when they call Florida, it is gonna to swing.

Correct, and when they call Pennsylvania it will swing. And Colorado, and Virginia. Right now the numbers are based on all probably outcomes. Trump got a big boost on Michigan being too close to call. With that in mind, calling Florida will for sure help him, but an Ohio flip which could happen would hurt his percentage.