50PoundHead
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2016 Presidential Primaries [ SUPER TUESDAY | 3-1-'16]
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Jesus has the wrong stance on carpet bombing.
Uh, the Tea Party loves/d both Rubio and Cruz.
You could say they're both Neocons right now, but they were big in the TP movement with Palin.
sturg33
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They are both neocons... but nobody should confuse Rubio as a small government guy... he is the opposite
sturg33
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Is it a 3 man horse or does anyone else have a shot as surprising? How's Bush polling in the south?
I think anyone here knows that. But it still doesn't discount their admiration in the tea party.
Are you just still mad that Ron Paul was also a Tea Party favorite, but Tea Party nowadays seem to love neocons more?
Julio3000
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I guess the mainstream cred for Rubio has its roots in the immigration reform issue. Still, he's pretty much indistinguishable from Cruz in policy. Tone and demeanor are the biggest differences.
I heard the aforementioned Hugh Hewitt interview interview Christie the other day, and Christie's take on Rubio is pretty withering—and, IMO, pretty accurate. He said, basically, I like Marco, but he's been giving the same speech for five years. He never does press gaggles, he's never really been tested. Step out of the bubble. That's going to be the line for the time being.
I've been waiting for Rubio to impress me. I haven't seen much of it. He's got a good biography, but right now he's all biography. I wonder if he would be compromised by how hard he's had to run against his own immigration position in the primary, a la Romney on healthcare in 2012.
I hope that at least one of the governors steps out. To me, they're the more preferable option.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tea+party+rubio+2011
Sarah Palin helped establish the Tea Party, so there's no way there wasn't already huge neocon elements in the Tea Party when it was created.
Ron Paul took some of the tea party love just like he took a lot of republican love, but it was always a neocon behemoth disguised as a rebellion to the establishment.
Still love that fake smile on Ann and Mitt's face during Christie's RNC speech a few years ago where he made it all about himself instead of talking about Mitt.
sturg33
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The Tea Party was started as a Ron Paul fundraising event, if I recall correctlty
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Yes, and the Party invented the airplane.
sturg33
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From Wikipedia
Commentaries on origin
Fox News Channel commentator Juan Williams has said that the Tea Party movement emerged from the "ashes" of Ron Paul's 2008 presidential primary campaign.[80] Indeed, Ron Paul has stated that its origin was, on December 16, 2007, when supporters held a 24-hour record breaking, "moneybomb" fundraising event on the Boston Tea Party's 234th anniversary,[81] but that others, including Republicans, took over and changed some of the movement's core beliefs.[82][83] Writing for Slate.com, Dave Weigel has argued in concurrence that, in his view, the "first modern Tea Party events occurred in December 2007, long before Barack Obama took office, and they were organized by supporters of Rep. Ron Paul," with the movement expanding and gaining prominence in 2009.[65] Barack Obama, the first African American President of the United States, took office in January 2009. Journalist Joshua Green has stated in The Atlantic that while Ron Paul is not the Tea Party's founder, or its culturally resonant figure, he has become the "intellectual godfather" of the movement since many now agree with his long-held beliefs.[84]
Congressman Ron Paul was appointed as the first chairman of the organization.
Commentaries on origin
Fox News Channel commentator Juan Williams has said that the Tea Party movement emerged from the "ashes" of Ron Paul's 2008 presidential primary campaign.[80] Indeed, Ron Paul has stated that its origin was, on December 16, 2007, when supporters held a 24-hour record breaking, "moneybomb" fundraising event on the Boston Tea Party's 234th anniversary,[81] but that others, including Republicans, took over and changed some of the movement's core beliefs.[82][83] Writing for Slate.com, Dave Weigel has argued in concurrence that, in his view, the "first modern Tea Party events occurred in December 2007, long before Barack Obama took office, and they were organized by supporters of Rep. Ron Paul," with the movement expanding and gaining prominence in 2009.[65] Barack Obama, the first African American President of the United States, took office in January 2009. Journalist Joshua Green has stated in The Atlantic that while Ron Paul is not the Tea Party's founder, or its culturally resonant figure, he has become the "intellectual godfather" of the movement since many now agree with his long-held beliefs.[84]
Congressman Ron Paul was appointed as the first chairman of the organization.
That's fine and all but the modern tea party movement that swept the 2010 mid terms had nothing to do with Paul. I used to be a Paul fan in a 2007 when he was breaking fundraising records and MySpace was still bigger than Facebook.
These were neoconservatives pretending to be small government.
Maybe Rand was the only one on his father's coattails. But the 2010 and 2014 midterms have been predominantly war mongering neoconservative Tea Baggers.
These were neoconservatives pretending to be small government.
Maybe Rand was the only one on his father's coattails. But the 2010 and 2014 midterms have been predominantly war mongering neoconservative Tea Baggers.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Cool, Ron Paul founded the Tea Party, according to Ron Paul.
Dude, I'm just messing with you.
acesfull86
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It really is. "We're for cutting government spending! As long as it's not Social Security. Medicare, Medicaid, or Military/National Defense - where we should be increasing our investment because China and Radical Islam!"
It's basically the movement to cut ~0.01% of the federal budget.
Watching a few seconds of tea party supporters get interviewed is enough to realize they're just as much the clueless frauds as the clowns who descended on Washington for that Jon Stewart rally or the ones who occupied Wall Street.
If the tea party movement somehow manifests itself into more support for Ron Paul types, great, but I basically gave up on it about 5 minutes after it was conceived.
sturg33
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The fact that you think this is clever and worth posting just reinforces how stupid you are