2016 Presidential Primaries [ SUPER TUESDAY | 3-1-'16]

What gets things done is when Goldman Sachs tells it's puppets to do something. That's the "good" you are getting with Hillary. Their "good."
 
BedellBrave said:
What gets things done is when Goldman Sachs tells it's puppets to do something. That's the "good" you are getting with Hillary. Their "good."
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Good Lord, man. Where has this fervid anti-Wall Street rancor been all these years? ;-)

B, I get that you're enjoying twisting our liberal tails about Hillary's coziness with Wall Street, but it seems a little untoward that you're not mentioning that the #1 industry contributing to Bush and Rubio is also listed as "securities & investment." It's #2 for Cruz, and the raw dollars are not insignificant. Their total spending on Rs dwarfs contributions to HRC. So, if she's bought, so is that fresh-faced fellow from Florida whom you seem to like, I suppose.

That's not to mention the tens of millions in dark money that is being spent, courtesy of Citizens United. Now, a word from our sponsors . . . brought to you by our masters on Wall Street and elsewhere, with a big assist from the late Justice Scalia.

So, yeah, I'll own my potential vote for Hillary and her friendliness with Wall Street, if you'll own the fact that the conservative movement and its elected myrmidons are essentially an infrastructure exists solely to vacuum money into those same pockets.
 
BedellBrave said:
What gets things done is when Goldman Sachs tells it's puppets to do something. That's the "good" you are getting with Hillary. Their "good."
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Correct, we're effectively part of an oligarchy. It's the job of the people to see past the bull**** and vote the ****ers out who're not working in our interest but the interest of a few.
 
Julio3000 said:
Good Lord, man. Where has this fervid anti-Wall Street rancor been all these years? ;-)

B, I get that you're enjoying twisting our liberal tails about Hillary's coziness with Wall Street, but it seems a little untoward that you're not mentioning that the #1 industry contributing to Bush and Rubio is also listed as "securities & investment." It's #2 for Cruz, and the raw dollars are not insignificant. Their total spending on Rs dwarfs contributions to HRC. So, if she's bought, so is that fresh-faced fellow from Florida whom you seem to like, I suppose.

That's not to mention the tens of millions in dark money that is being spent, courtesy of Citizens United. Now, a word from our sponsors . . . brought to you by our masters on Wall Street and elsewhere, with a big assist from the late Justice Scalia.

So, yeah, I'll own my potential vote for Hillary and her friendliness with Wall Street, if you'll own the fact that the conservative movement and its elected myrmidons are essentially an infrastructure exists solely to vacuum money into those same pockets.
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Deal - they are all various colors of the same cloth.
 
Last 2 SC poll have Bernie in under 20 points behind Hillary which isn't good. But it's much better than he was at. Virginia Poll has Hillary 12 points up on Bernie. Given it's basically the "belly of the beast" I think that bodes well for Bernie.
 
Bernie has no integrity at all. He simply lies to the people about our problems, what he is going to do to address them, and how he's going to pay for it. Then he wants to steal enormous amounts of wealth from everyone in order to fund these ideas.
 
sturg33 said:
Bernie has no integrity at all. He simply lies to the people about our problems, what he is going to do to address them, and how he's going to pay for it. Then he wants to steal enormous amounts of wealth from everyone in order to fund these ideas.
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sturg33 said:
Bernie has no integrity at all. He simply lies to the people about our problems, what he is going to do to address them, and how he's going to pay for it. Then he wants to steal enormous amounts of wealth from everyone in order to fund these ideas.
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Started watching a few years back how candidates allot their time, who are their advisers and how they spend their money during the campaign. Sort of a window into the charactor operation of a candidate. Or, how will they govern. What are their tendencies.

Can you tell me how Senator Sanders raised and spent his campaign monies? Who are his advisers? Anything about his history as a mayor or congressman?
Can you speak to how his campaign organized it's state level operations and coordinated them nationally?

Didn't think so -- so you are repeating the Fox News line of be scared of the scary socialist without
(here is that pesky phrase I keep throwing to you)

Scratching the surface
 
sturg33 said:
Bernie has no integrity at all. He simply lies to the people about our problems, what he is going to do to address them, and how he's going to pay for it. Then he wants to steal enormous amounts of wealth from everyone in order to fund these ideas.
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I don't know if he is outright lying. I just think he's terribly deluded.
 
57Brave said:
Started watching a few years back how candidates allot their time, who are their advisers and how they spend their money during the campaign. Sort of a window into the charactor operation of a candidate. Or, how will they govern. What are their tendencies.

Can you tell me how Senator Sanders raised and spent his campaign monies? Who are his advisers? Anything about his history as a mayor or congressman?
Can you speak to how his campaign organized it's state level operations and coordinated them nationally?

Didn't think so -- so you are repeating the Fox News line of be scared of the scary socialist without
(here is that pesky phrase I keep throwing to you)

Scratching the surface
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The ones not scratching the surface are Bernie and his supporters. Every time he starts to provide detail, sources (on left, right, and non-partisan) provide analyses questioning his math/assumptions/conclusions, and all we get back are "the source is biased" or "well, country 'X' is doing it," or even the vague "dude, see Bernie's going to change the whole model of everything, man."
 
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