2016 Presidential Primaries [ SUPER TUESDAY | 3-1-'16]

57Brave said:
But that Socialist that says bread lines are good are a good thing is not the front runner and presumptive nominee.

I take it you have yet to see the context of Sanders statement . Like so many (D) that didn't see the context of "unqualified"

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Show me the context where Sanders clearly said that bread lines were a good thing.
 
Go back to the article you posted. The context is spelled out by the writer.

People waiting in lines for bread is better than people not getting bread at all.
 
go back and read it - no one expects you to agree with it but at east try to understand the point Sanders was trying to make.


You can't take election year politics so literal. Especially from a US Senator.
There is a reason Obama was the first Senator since Kennedy to get elected. They all speak in some sorta maybe -probably language that always starts with "in my view"
 
GE CEO trashes Sanders after the Senator calls them "immoral"

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We at GE were interested to read comments Monday by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who told the New York Daily News editorial board that GE is among the companies that are supposedly “destroying the moral fabric” of America. The senator had been asked to cite examples of corporate greed at its worst. Somehow that got him to talking about us.

GE has been in business for 124 years, and we’ve never been a big hit with socialists. We create wealth and jobs, instead of just calling for them in speeches. We take risks, invest, innovate and produce in ways that today sustain 125,000 U.S. jobs. Our engineers innovate every day to build hardware and software solutions that meet real-world challenges. Our employees are proud of our company. I meet second- and third-generation employees whenever I travel across the country. I am one myself. Our suppliers and partners are proud of our company. Our communities are proud of our company. Our pride, history and hard work are real — the moral fabric of America.

The senator has never bothered to stop by our aviation plant in Rutland, Vt. We’ve been investing heavily (some $100 million in recent years), hiring and turning out some of the world’s finest jet-engine components in Vermont since the 1950s. The plant employs more than 1,000 people who are very good at what they do. It’s a picture of first-rate jobs with high wages, advanced manufacturing in a vital industry — how things look when American workers are competing and winning — and Vermont’s junior senator is always welcome to come by for a tour.

Elsewhere in Vermont, GE Healthcare employs more than 340 men and women in South Burlington. Yearly, GE does about $40 million worth of business with dozens of suppliers of parts and services across Vermont. Nationwide, we have 200 GE plants, including 15 that were built in the past five years — all with the aim of making GE the world’s premier industrial company.

Sanders says that he is upset about GE’s operations abroad — as though a company that has customers in more than 180 countries should have no presence in any of them. He never mentions that we are one of the United States’ prime exporters, annually selling in excess of $20 billion worth of American-made goods to the world. Nor does he mention that our sales around the world support our manufacturing base here at home, along with the thousands of U.S. companies in our supply chain. You want to cause big problems for our suppliers — many of whom are small and medium-size businesses — and their workers? The surest way would be to pull out of those countries and lose those customers.

We are competing globally with foreign companies whose governments care whether they win and support them in innumerable ways. U.S. companies continue to wrestle with an outdated and complex tax code that puts them at a distinct competitive disadvantage. Sanders has stated many times that GE pays no taxes. Repeating a lie over and over does not make it true. We pay billions in taxes, including federal, state and local taxes. The U.S. tax system has not been updated in 30 years and isn’t designed for today’s economy, which is why we support comprehensive tax reform — even if it raises our tax rate.

It’s easy to make hollow campaign promises and take cheap shots in speeches and during editorial board sessions, but U.S. companies have to deliver for their employees, customers and shareholders every day. GE operates in the real world. We’re in the business of building real things and generating real growth for a nation that needs it now more than ever. I’m proud of all that we do, and how it all figures into “the moral fabric” of America is so plain to me. It seems Sen. Sanders is missing the point.
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The anti-business sentiment from Sanders, Trump, and Clinton in this campaign has gone too far in my opinion... but shouldn't be surprising as it appears we prefer bread lines now
 
Oklahomahawk said:
I don't know Sanders' whole thing about GE, but they have been known to make/keep company with some pretty shady lowlifes
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I don't think GE or Immelt is some sort of angel... but they've done way more for this country and its citizens than Bernie Sanders has.

It's laughable that Bernie has the gal to say a company is immoral as he collects his massive pay check for the ****ing US government
 
sturg33 said:
I support our companies taking advantage of every dumb loop hole in the tax code... Our corporate tax rate is a joke
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I agree. IN a world where GE can make 6 billion in profit and pay no income tax, but a mom and pop shop can make 25-50K and pay more in taxes. We have an issue there. A big huge gigantic colossal issue.
 
sturg33 said:
I support our companies taking advantage of every dumb loop hole in the tax code... Our corporate tax rate is a joke
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And if any of them (the big ones) paid it I might care. We live in a country that claims to be a democracy that runs free market capitalism but it isn't really any of those things. The top 10%, mainly the top 1% run this country and buy enough of the media to spew out disinformation that keeps the rest of us fussing and fighting against each other rather than making this country what it ought to be. And the rest of us can't pontificate about it enough but we don't ever really do anything about it because that would mean actually turning off the TV and doing something.

Remember, you're a young man. Fixing these things is going to be left up to you. My generation didn't invent effing up things and turning this country into a place where the top 10% control 90% of the wealth and turn the other 90% of the population into their serfs but we certainly perfected it. My generation should absolutely be ashamed of ourselves for allowing this happen or flat out making it happen. I can tell you this, supporting laws and policies, or ignoring other laws and policies, all of which lead to the rich getting richer, all under the guise of "well they're the hard workers" and those other people are just lazy is and always has been a terrible idea and while you may not see it now but it's doing to be the death of the top 10% some day and especially of the top 1%.

Only a system that works for everyone who will work can work.
 
sturg33 said:
I kinda laugh when the left is saying that Trump is who the Republican party deserves as they tout the socialist who says bread lines are a good thing.
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IMO, Trump AND Cruz are exactly what the Repubs deserve after the last 30+ years of talk radio and Faux propaganda. They hate Trump because he's just like them but they can't control him, Cruz desperately wants to be their bitch because he loves power and since they can control him they aren't that interested anymore since he can't seem to quite seal the deal at the ballot box and once you've "had" the dream girl she just isn't quite as attractive anymore. Ideally I think they want Paul Ryan but a little "I was wrong to be so mean about the slimy, worthless, lazy, lowlife, takers, er uh I mean the poor and unfortunate" isn't going to fool anyone except the most gullible.

and the Dems are getting just what they deserve with Hilldog and her "hey boys, I"m just as big a slime ball (if not more so) that any of you and not only do I belong to all the same special interest groups as you, they actually like me better and pay me better than they do you so who has the biggest schlong now guys? Oh and did I mention the parts about flip flopping on just about every issue and being made of Teflon when it comes to Congressional inquires and hearings?

I know you don't like Bernie but I really feel like he and Ron Paul may be the only 2 candidates we've had in a LONG time who truly believed what they said on the campaign trail rather than "I'll say and be whatever you want me to be IF you'll just vote for me", ala Rand Paul for example. With that said, Ron Paul will never be anything more than "niche candidate" on the Repub side and the fact that Bernie is doing as well as he is on the Dem side is much more IMO about how godawful Hilldog is than how great an overall candidate Bernie is, and I'd say the same thing about Elizabeth Warren, great appeal on one or two issues but that isn't enough to get you into the White House.
 
The Don said:
I would venture to say if the 2 parties split

40% of dems go to a progressive party similar to the green

60% go to a blue dog conservative dem party.

40% of Republicans stay with the party, the McCain and romney molds.

The other 30% stay with trump.

The other 15% go to libertarian

Final 15% go to Tea Party Cruz types.
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I would actually like to see something like this. It wouldn't be perfect either but I think it's a better, more workable solution than that "mystical 3rd party" we're always talking about and it's certainly better than the two POS parties we have right now.
 
sturg33 said:
GE CEO trashes Sanders after the Senator calls them "immoral"

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The anti-business sentiment from Sanders, Trump, and Clinton in this campaign has gone too far in my opinion... but shouldn't be surprising as it appears we prefer bread lines now
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I had the privilege of being in Budapest shortly after the Berlin wall fell. Goodness, we need us some of those Soviet style grocery stores. Makes shopping so much easier.
 
zitothebrave said:
LMMFAO CEO at GE complaining about the tax code?

GE for years paid little to no state or federal income taxes.
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Their investors paid plenty in capital gains tax. The corporate income tax is just a way to double tax profits--first when the corporation earns a profit and again when investors profit from the sale of the company's stock.
 
FreemanFan said:
Their investors paid plenty in capital gains tax. The corporate income tax is just a way to double tax profits--first when the corporation earns a profit and again when investors profit from the sale of the company's stock.
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I'm fie with abolishing corporate or personal income and raising the other and capital gains.
 
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