2018 Trade Deadline ROSTERBATION

While not trade Deadline, because there's no way he gets traded, what are the odds the Braves don't make a hard move on Kimbrel? Being competitive again and bringing back a hometown kid while closer shouldn't be the number 1 priority (figuring out LF should be) it would be a heck of a way to do it.
 
Ozzie's Chainz said:
Just get Avilan for slot money and call it a deadline. We can get Beltre in August.
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The ChiSox just traded away $1.5M in slot money to the Yankees for a fringe AA LHP.

You think they are interested in acquiring slot money in exchange for Avilan? Is this another shining example of your vast baseball knowledge?
 
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Camargo currently a 100 wRC+ in July on a .300 BABIP.

After May walk rate at 19.2%, June walk rate at 7.8%, July 6.4%. K rate 17.5% in June; now 26.9 % in July.

Steady trend has been walks have been coming down and Ks have been coming steadily up. The occasional bit of pop and timely hitting has helped make him seem like a better hitter than he is, IMO. Higher BABIP in June helped his wRC+ stay above dead average.

Beltre has had a terrible July on the other hand. Perhaps not worth parting with any significant asset for him. I would not have a strong feeling as to which would end up being more valuable. I do enjoy Camargo's defense. He's sure handed there. Over the long haul I would rather see him picking it over there than downgrade that without the certainty of a major upgrade with bat. I'm not sure that Beltre gives you that guarantee now. But Braves need something to upgrade Ryan Flaherty and I do tend to agree that if it is a platoon bat for 3B that might be a good thing. Just not clear there are any real good options there. Solarte still looks like a good idea to me, but he's been at a minimum super unlucky since we first started discussing him.

Trying to get Donaldson through a post waivers trade after he comes back and shows something might still be the play depending on finances.
 
Southcack77 said:
Camargo currently a 100 wRC+ in July on a .300 BABIP.

After May walk rate at 19.2%, June walk rate at 7.8%, July 6.4%. K rate 17.5% in June; now 26.9 % in July.

Steady trend has been walks have been coming down and Ks have been coming steadily up. The occasional bit of pop and timely hitting has helped make him seem like a better hitter than he is, IMO. Higher BABIP in June helped his wRC+ stay above dead average.

Beltre has had a terrible July on the other hand. Perhaps not worth parting with any significant asset for him. I would not have a strong feeling as to which would end up being more valuable. I do enjoy Camargo's defense. He's sure handed there. Over the long haul I would rather see him picking it over there than downgrade that without the certainty of a major upgrade with bat. I'm not sure that Beltre gives you that guarantee now. But Braves need something to upgrade Ryan Flaherty and I do tend to agree that if it is a platoon bat for 3B that might be a good thing. Just not clear there are any real good options there. Solarte still looks like a good idea to me, but he's been at a minimum super unlucky since we first started discussing him.

Trying to get Donaldson through a post waivers trade after he comes back and shows something might still be the play depending on finances.
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I agree overall with your line of thinking. Unless Beltre comes cheap, I don't think he's worth acquiring at this point.

Solarte might be the play here, especially considering AA wants controllable guys. I'm against paying extra for control over a utility guy, but he would certainly fill a hole on the current roster.

The Donaldson in August idea is also sound. Once/If he proves healthy he could be a difference maker for the Braves.

I can't imagine the Braves stand pat on the left side of the IF though. It's such an obvious place to make a small but meaningful upgrade.

More and more I get the feeling the Braves are about to do something that gets them a SP under control for 1+ years. Depending on the cost, it could be a dumb move or a decent move. I don't see any realistic scenario where I'm jumping for joy after the Braves acquire a SP, partly because I think that means Gohara was shipped out, and partly because I'm against consolidating resources into a declining SP.
 
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Rays beat writer Marc Topkin says the Rays have asked teams for their final offer for Archer and Romo is being discussed with lots of teams.
 
Enscheff said:
I agree overall with your line of thinking. Unless Beltre comes cheap, I don't think he's worth acquiring at this point.

Solarte might be the play here, especially considering AA wants controllable guys. I'm against paying extra for control over a utility guy, but he would certainly fill a hole on the current roster.

The Donaldson in August idea is also sound. Once/If he proves healthy he could be a difference maker for the Braves.

I can't imagine the Braves stand pat on the left side of the IF though. It's such an obvious place to make a small but meaningful upgrade.

More and more I get the feeling the Braves are about to do something that gets them a SP under control for 1+ years. Depending on the cost, it could be a dumb move or a decent move. I don't see any realistic scenario where I'm jumping for joy after the Braves acquire a SP, partly because I think that means Gohara was shipped out, and partly because I'm against consolidating resources into a declining SP.
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I want to see them get a controllable starting pitcher. I like everything about how Archer would fit into the roster and payroll except his probable acquisition cost.
 
Southcack77 said:
I want to see them get a controllable starting pitcher. I like everything about how Archer would fit into the roster and payroll except his probable acquisition cost.
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I'm curious what our offer for Archer currently is. You'd have to assume Fried is in there somewhere as he's a guy the Rays would covet.
 
imo the last move should be for Solarte or Dietrich...I would also check with the Cubs on Happ, but a match there is less likely
 
that big homestand allows the Braves to stay 3.3% above last year's pace through same number of home dates.

We were replacing a big attendance series vs the Cubs, so the sellouts were timely.

Braves on pace to do 2.66 million in total attendance, but probably a good bet to take the over if Braves can stay in it.
 
Southcack77 said:
I want to see them get a controllable starting pitcher. I like everything about how Archer would fit into the roster and payroll except his probable acquisition cost.
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IMO, the only saving grace about an Archer trade is that the Rays typically over value players the Braves seem to have a lot of...MLB-ready non-scrubs.

There are several packages the Braves could build centered around MLB-ready pitching (and some position players) that makes trading for Archer appealing if he is acquired for the right package.

For example, Fried/Gohara plus Camargo plus Wisler (still probably not enough, but illustrative) for Archer, followed by an acquisition of Beltre. A quantity over quality package for Archer is something the Braves could absorb more easily than almost any other club (except the Yankees).
 
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