Gray has been as good as ever outside of Yankee stadium. The problem is, they play half their games at Yankee stadium. Gray is a good, young, controllable starting pitcher that we can likely get at a discounted rate. That's why we would do this deal. The Yanks gave up quite a bit more than Allard just 1 year ago to acquire Gray.
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Gray has been as good as ever outside of Yankee stadium. The problem is, they play half their games at Yankee stadium. Gray is a good, young, controllable starting pitcher that we can likely get at a discounted rate. That's why we would do this deal. The Yanks gave up quite a bit more than Allard just 1 year ago to acquire Gray.
JxnMissFan
Gwinnett Bound
I get your logic. I just can’t get excited about a guy that is struggling this year and missed a lot of starts the two prior years. I’m afraid gray has past his prime.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
You sure home-road splits are that useful for making trade decisions? I think in the case of both Hamels and Gray their overall numbers are a better indicator than the home or road numbers
When home parks are extreme, yes I do. His other peripherals are solid also, with a FIP nearly a full run lower than his ERA.
Southcack77
Well-known member
Plus we have a renowned pitching coach.
LOL, the "Camargo moves to utility role" articles are coming out! I really hope the Braves get Beltre just to see what our resident hero poster says about it haha.
https://www.talkingchop.com/2018/7/...ighing-waiving-no-trade-clause-atlanta-braves
"acquiring Beltre would give Atlanta a right handed bat and another experienced voice in what is a young clubhouse. The move would also potentially free Camargo to move back to a utility role"
It's happening! I can't wait for the hilarity haha!
https://www.talkingchop.com/2018/7/...ighing-waiving-no-trade-clause-atlanta-braves
"acquiring Beltre would give Atlanta a right handed bat and another experienced voice in what is a young clubhouse. The move would also potentially free Camargo to move back to a utility role"
It's happening! I can't wait for the hilarity haha!
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Come on man, I think we have enough data on Camargo to know that he's perfectly capable of being an above average MLB 3B. If Dansbae was hitting better, I really doubt we'd be looking into Beltre. As it is, I'm sure AA realizes our offense could stand a boost and Beltre appears to be one of the cheapest options to do that.
Keep grasping at those straws. Camargo isn't a 45 no matter how much you want him to be. Keep bringing the derp. Btw, Camargo is outdoing Beltre this year so why would he be benched? Camargo is the 3rd best defender in baseball at third base. You shouldn't be taking Talking Chop articles too seriously
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UNCBlue012
Well-known member
YASSS
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
Kolby Allard scratched!
zbhargrove
Well-known member
There is a vast velocity difference
Hudson2
Well-known member
I’d rather have DeGrom
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
DOB saying he might make a spot start for the big team. Wonder if one of the starters is carrying an injury.
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
Not sure I’m buying that
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Under performance relative to peripherals is small
Career numbers: 3.69 ERA 3.48 FIP and 3.45 xFIP
This year there is a bigger gap but likely just a small sample thing.
Even when a pitcher under-performs peripherals over a multi-year period I would still bet on the peripherals. Anibal Sanchez is Exhibit A. He was unlucky for three straight years before this year. Don't bet against the peripherals. Bet on luck normalizing.
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bravesfanforlife88
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Agreed