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acesfull86 said:
I'd like to see an honest discussion about why people think overpopulation is a problem...seems like most would rather start with the premise that obviously it's a problem and jump right into solutions...but I know that's wishful thinking in 2019
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i'm neutral on this...but it should be noted that there are economic challenges associated both with aging populations (usually a reflection of low fertility rates) and rapid population growth...and reasonable policy responses to both...countries like France and Japan have implemented policies to encourage people to have more children...and other countries have worked on making contraceptives more widely available and to educate people about family planning...I think most countries are still fairly laissez faire about this issue

it is interesting that China has moved away from its one-child policy...economic growth solves a lot of problems...but there is little doubt that at certain stages of development excessively fast population growth is a big problem and still is in places like Egypt
 
acesfull86 said:
I'd like to see an honest discussion about why people think overpopulation is a problem...seems like most would rather start with the premise that obviously it's a problem and jump right into solutions...but I know that's wishful thinking in 2019
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If the world is ending in 12 years why are we worried about population control?
 
acesfull86 said:
I'd like to see an honest discussion about why people think overpopulation is a problem...seems like most would rather start with the premise that obviously it's a problem and jump right into solutions...but I know that's wishful thinking in 2019
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I’m with you. I think this is a weird talking point and I don’t like it a bit.
 
I don't think overpopulation is a permanent problem.

I think it will be a big problem in the coming decades if we don't address many things right now like climate change.

Automation of jobs, climate change that will force more mass migrations than we already have now, etc. These are all problems I foresee down the road if we do not start getting aggressive with tackling the inevitable consequences from those things.

I also am curious to see how the population reacts when things we take for granted like seafood are going to be well understocked in the oceans due to how much overfishing we're doing right now. Also, new advanced farming methods that yield more crop with less space and more efficient use of water are going to be big in the plant based protein diets like we're seeing with impossible/beyond burgers.

It's also said that our infrastructure is a ticking time bomb when it comes to having more cities having a water crisis like Flint. Lots of cities still have not replaced their old pipes.

We certainly have more than enough food right now to feed everyone ont he planet, when you include all the food we don't even eat and throw away.
 
I think Status Quo Joe is taking one for the team. Gonna be the distraction for the Party until he bows out around the Primaries and puts over someone else like Liz.

Joe just has no energy on the trail and looks nothing like he did in 2012 when he schooled Paul Ryan on the debate stage.

Biden looks old out there. Best comparison I can come up with is he looks like Lee Corso right now on College Gameday. Corso had a stroke a few years ago so it's messed up his speech a little. Biden is dragging his sentences like he's 95. Bernie is just as old but isn't having the same issur.
 
I think “overpopulation” is often just misdirection for the problem of resource allocation. That may be why so many big NGOs (like the Gates Foundation) are pushing that narrative forward. There’s kind of a sick but comprehensible logic to a foundation endowed by multi-billionaires deciding that the problem is too many poors having babies, not the fact that a relative few control the majority of the resources. And, in the context of climate change, it can get downright silly, because Global-North-style consumption habits—and their adoption by the developing world—are way more of a threat than just population. I’m all for access to sex education and family planning in the developing world, but there’s something weird and paternalistic (and, subtext, maybe racist?) about the American politicians discussing overpopulation.
 
I'm starting to really wonder about the mental damage being done to our kids. I wonder if any parents or schools have covered all of the times the scientists have been wrong about our inevitable deaths

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nsacpi said:
easy to make fun of...but it is a safety and human rights issue for people who are on the margins of society in multiple ways
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In the comments there is a story about a 'female' trans raping three female inmates

The party of science is hyping a complete fantasy for people bc of their feelings, and it actually leads to people getting hurt.
 
nsacpi said:
easy to make fun of...but it is a safety and human rights issue for people who are on the margins of society in multiple ways
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If you were to have people rank their top 25 issues, I’m betting this doesn’t make the list for all but the smallest population of voters (who were going to support the Dem over Trump anyway). Not sure what Biden stands to gain by bringing this up, and independents are on the whole probably more turned off than with him on the issue. He looks tired trying to keep up with the wokeness of the rest of the Dem field.
 
acesfull86 said:
If you were to have people rank their top 25 issues, I’m betting this doesn’t make the list for all but the smallest population of voters (who were going to support the Dem over Trump anyway). Not sure what Biden stands to gain by bringing this up, and independents are on the whole probably more turned off than with him on the issue. He looks tired trying to keep up with the wokeness of the rest of the Dem field.
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I don't think there is any political gain for Biden in standing up for transsexuals incarcerated in our prison system. Could be he just thinks its the right thing to do.
 
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