2020 Trade Deadline Thread

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Horsehide Harry

<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
We got a week - August 31.

Things that are clear for the Braves: Pen = good, Offense = OK but could be great with a 3B fix and health for some guys. SP = horrendous

No one knows how teams will value the season much less trade pieces.

My guess (only that) is that nothing much happens. The strongest teams look pretty complete at this point and ownership knows that they could get a pass if they do nothing. Moving the future into this year looks a little useless at this point.

However, IF you have a team willing to take dollars, a bargain might happen. Knowing corporate ownership like I do, I think there's a possibility that Liberty might green light moves that legitimately put the earnings in the red this year to write down their taxes. Who knows for sure.

I'll start the speculation and throw out a blockbuster that probably won't happen:

Atlanta gets: Xander Bogaerts for 3B and Nate Eovaldi as a SP and Martin Perez as a SP. Braves take all the money.

Boston gets: Camargo, Shewmake, Wright and Wilson.

Boston moves dollars, especially Eovaldi and adds some young talent.

Braves get two SP arms Perez at $6.5M in 21 or a 500K buyout, Eovaldi at $17M per in 21 and 22. Bogaerts at $20M per through 25 with a 26 option. Bogaerts isn't a great defensive SS but should be better at 3B where he's played before. He's from Aruba so should fit well with Acuna and Albies and age along with those contracts. Eovaldi is chancey, might be gold might be pyrite. But he's better than any guy not named Fried on the current staff.

The Braves have to make the money work in 20. Outside of that it shouldn't be a big problem.

I don't know that either team would do it. But I like it's looks.
 
Who can compile a list of durable SPs on losing teams under control for this year, or this year plus next year? The SPs AA trades for will likely come from that list.
 
We could make it work with Bogaerts with all the money coming off the books. Pache will be ready to start the season next year and Waters is getting close too so we could have a really cheap OF soon. Maybe we could pawn Ender off on somebody but I doubt it.
 
Some possibles for the rotation might be Teheran, Matz, Eovaldi, Perez, Harvey, Boyd, Lynn, Bundy, Walker, Cueto, Gausman

Not a great list. Some can be had for nothing because of expense. Some are really worth nothing and you'd have to hope they rebound. Pretty ugly all the way around.
 
Qualified starters from teams I consider "out of it".

Red Sox - Perez, Eovaldi
Tigers - Boyd
Royals - Duffy, Singer
Mariners - None
Angels - Bundy, Heaney
Pirates - None

So that's 7 names, and it seems like only the Pirates are clear sellers in the NL.

Bundy - owed basically nothing, dominant in 2020, still under arb control next...this is a prime target
Heaney - same deal as Bundy, probably costs less to acquire
Perez - mediocre pitcher, owed very little, cheap option for 2021...a prime candidate
Eovaldi - owed a lot of cash for a while, hard to justify this add financially
Boyd - owed nothing, arb control in 2021, much better than his 8.48 ERA...a prime candidate
Duffy - owed some cash through 2021, solid SP, think I heard KC will never trade him
Singer - tons of control, isn't going anywhere

Perez seems free, so pencil him in as a Braves by the end of the month.

Bundy seems like a breakout star with the O's so expect them to keep him for next year. The Angels probably aren't going to punt any season with Trout, so probably not trading Heaney either. Eovaldi is too expensive without Boston sending cash. Duffy and Singer seem like fixtures in KC.

That leaves Boyd as a buy low candidate.

So...Perez and Boyd it is.
 
Enscheff said:
Qualified starters from teams I consider "out of it".

Red Sox - Perez, Eovaldi
Tigers - Boyd
Royals - Duffy, Singer
Mariners - None
Angels - Bundy, Heaney
Pirates - None

So that's 7 names, and it seems like only the Pirates are clear sellers in the NL.

Bundy - owed basically nothing, dominant in 2020, still under arb control next...this is a prime target
Heaney - same deal as Bundy, probably costs less to acquire
Perez - mediocre pitcher, owed very little, cheap option for 2021...a prime candidate
Eovaldi - owed a lot of cash for a while, hard to justify this add financially
Boyd - owed nothing, arb control in 2021, much better than his 8.48 ERA...a prime candidate
Duffy - owed some cash through 2021, solid SP, think I heard KC will never trade him
Singer - tons of control, isn't going anywhere

Perez seems free, so pencil him in as a Braves by the end of the month.

Bundy seems like a breakout star with the O's so expect them to keep him for next year. The Angels probably aren't going to punt any season with Trout, so probably not trading Heaney either. Eovaldi is too expensive without Boston sending cash. Duffy and Singer seem like fixtures in KC.

That leaves Boyd as a buy low candidate.

So...Perez and Boyd it is.
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How about Arizona?
 
DBacks are 3 games under .500 where over half the teams make the playoffs. Maybe they will be sellers next week.
 
The initial trade seemed way too light for the Sox to accept. But the more I think about it, it is possible.

I posted before that I think the key to the deadline is aa getting permission to spend money from liberty.

Owners are scared about next year bc of corona and the years after bc of a guaranteed work stoppage. If aa can secure funds he might find a scared owner to let go of a talent for a cheap return.

Getting an impact player without losing pache, waters or either catcher prospect would be amazing.
 
For more likely trades....
Aa seems to work more around the margins at the deadline.

Who on our prospect list has to go on the 40 man next year? I ask bc I felt one of the reasons we moved allard was we had a bunch of guys who needed to go on the 40 man and allard was a dfa candidate for us. I think pitchers on the margin of the 40 man are the more likely movers bc they are eligible to be traded this year and are cheap now and next year.
 
Not an inspiring list of potential starting pitching targets. Martin Perez? I'd rather bring back former Braves' SS/2B Marty Perez. My disdain aside, Perez is a guy who can get on a roll and this is a season where a brief impressive stretch has inflated value.

In reference to HH's original post, I read that Boston may (and it was clearly an out-of-the-box thought by the writer) want to move Bogaerts and my immediate thought is that he'd be a great fit for the Braves if he'd move to 3B. Don't know what it would take to get him to Atlanta (or if he'd welcome a move to 3B) and he has an opt-out after 2022 (age 30). It seems like the kind of deal that Anthopoulos likes to make, but given how the trade market works this season, I don't know what it would take to fall in place. I do know that how some of the Braves' younger pitchers have done a world-class face-plant doesn't help in terms of value we have to move.

Of the names on the list, I think Walker and Eovaldi are the ones of greatest interest to me. Boyd is a classic buy-low guy, but he's really been terrible thus far in 2020.
 
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