2022 MLB Draft Thread

Found this guy on Twitter and have been reading his draft stuff. I have no idea where he gets these numbers from, but a good analytical deep dive on Keller here, who this guy actually ranks as the #80 player in this class, right behind our second rounder Cole Phillips:


Seth Keller has been a two-way player in High School and according to a closer personal contact of his, if he is drafted, Seth Keller prefers to hit first and switch to the mound if he flops. I can see the appeal in him as a shortstop with plus bat speed and elite athleticism but his talent on the mound is so exciting that I’m not giving him his due at shortstop because I think it’s foolish to waste time doing anything but pitching.
The changeup is absolutely unfair. He throws it with a circle change grip but the movement profile is very much that of a splitter and an excellent one at that. During the summer circuit, he averaged -3.7" IVB with 16.7" of fade to his arm side. For the sake of being fair, let’s compare that to every MLB changeup thrown 3+ times. Only four pitchers have as much drop as Keller on their changeup. Of those four, no one averages more than 13.9" of fading action. The most drop by a changeup with as much horizontal movement as Keller is the Airbender himself, Devin Williams. Except, Keller very much does not throw an Airbender because he averages just 1300 RPMs. It’s a unicorn pitch that is easily worth a plus grade.
I’ve heard nothing but good things about the slider this spring too. The slider sits in the low eighties and has sweeping action from a low slot. His mound positioning is somewhat detrimental to his HAA but the pitch is still a low slot sweeper to the glove side that should play off the only slightly lower changeup. It only earns an average grade but I know some people who think it’s better than the changeup.
Seth Keller isn’t really a projectable build but he moves really well on the mound. His arm timing has been on point this spring and he utilizes the entire kinetic chain effectively. He’s only sitting 91–93 MPH right now but I kind of expect that he’ll still add more velocity. The delivery looks a little violent but when you look at it frame by frame, it looks great and purposeful- probably because of the athleticism that lets him control his motion.
Seth Keller is 5'10" and throws from a very low arm slot. The result is a 4.9' release height. The fastball is a tailing two-seamer with just 13.2" IVB over the summer and 15.3" of run but the pitch still projects fairly well given the angles he gets from his low slot. I don’t think the fastball will be a big bat misser but it should get groundballs and he has the Changeup/Slider pairing to meet his swing and miss needs.
Seth Keller has three quality pitches and throws enough strikes. Despite the unconventional look, that sounds like a starting pitcher to me. Seth Keller has a surprisingly high ceiling for how little velocity he has and belongs in the top three rounds for me. He’s an Old Dominion commit so I can’t imagine he’ll be that tough of a sign and whoever lands him will be getting a steal. He’s going to go lower than this ranking and in a few years, it’s likely teams will be scratching their head wondering how they completely missed his obvious talent.
 
Would love to add an upside high school guy or two tomorrow. Doubt we have the money to pluck a major prospect, but this scouting department has gone high school in round 11 in their two chances to do so with Vaughn Grissom in 2019 and Adam Shoemaker 2021.

One guy I like is Gage Harrelson. He’s a Texas Tech commit, high school outfielder from Georgia who has the third fastest times at the draft combine. Not an elite prospect, but would be a fun upside guy.
 
Would love to add an upside high school guy or two tomorrow. Doubt we have the money to pluck a major prospect, but this scouting department has gone high school in round 11 in their two chances to do so with Vaughn Grissom in 2019 and Adam Shoemaker 2021.

One guy I like is Gage Harrelson. He’s a Texas Tech commit, high school outfielder from Georgia who has the third fastest times at the draft combine. Not an elite prospect, but would be a fun upside guy.

I think they will likely grab a couple. I have no idea of knowing, but they may have gone low on a few rounds in hopes of loading up on Richie and Phillips (and it sounds like they may have to a bit over the 7th round slot value to get Keller). If either Richie or Phillips don't sign, they lose the pool money dedicated to those slots, but they would still likely have some money to throw around post-10 if that were to happen due to any below slot savings.
 
Anyone worth being excited about after the Burkhalter pick? Just got off work… thanks in advance

Keller and Maier, I think, are the most exciting. McCabe & Mr Baldwin also possess some intrigue as guys with powerful swings from the left-side (with the former actually being a switch-hitter).
 
Keller and Maier, I think, are the most exciting. McCabe & Mr Baldwin also possess some intrigue as guys with powerful swings from the left-side (with the former actually being a switch-hitter).

I forgot about Maier. It sounds like they may have to go overslot for him as well. I'm sure they've thought it all out.
 
I forgot about Maier. It sounds like they may have to go overslot for him as well. I'm sure they've thought it all out.

Elite spin-rates on the breaking ball and very good aspects to the changeup. Very young for a college draftee. UCL stabilization and FB development will tell the tale. Another Canadian.

Sounds like overslot, but not wildly so for the round.

There are a lot of interesting upside plays, and the plays have occurred earlier than we've seen Anthopoulos & Brown shoot their shots. Only really two straight-up high-floor cheapo signs in the first ten. Beyond that, one thing I'm impressed by: it's clear they're willing to change their "type" draft-to-draft, truly targeting annual inefficiencies, versus pigeon-holing themselves to one type of player or draft (even in a year where it seems like prep RHPs, the riskiest bin, became their market inefficiency du jour). Even then, though, they have an modeled angle—high athleticism, repeatable lower-slot deliveries, very good command.

Might amount to little, but I'm more excited to follow these guys than I was for the bulk of the 2021 draft.
 
So much respect for you guys that actually follow the mlb draft. Just so many guys with such a low hit rate.
 
I agree. If they haven't played college baseball, I have no idea who these guys are

Neither has Striker. That doesn't stop him from complaining about a prospect he's never heard anything about, but read 2 paragraphs on him over at MLB.com.
 
Not our first rounders. That's what I was referencing. A lot of uninspired results there.

It generally takes at least 3 years to make any judgements about a draft pick. And that is made even more difficult in lieu of the missed 2020 minor league season. So you're making terrible judgements on prospects who don't really have enough data to make any judgements on.

Having said that, Langeliers seems like a hit. Shewmake seems like a bust. Schuster is doing well and should probably be a rotation mainstay. Cusick has yet to throw more than 50 innings, so there really isn't any relevant data for him.

So far, AA's 1st round picks seem like they have around a 50% hit rate. I'd say that is better than average. Especially considering the respective picks those guys were selected at.
 
Last edited:
It generally takes at least 3 years to make any judgements about a draft pick. And that is made even more difficult in lieu of the missed 2020 minor league season. So you're making terrible judgements on prospects who don't really have enough data to make any judgements on.

Having said that, Langeliers seems like a hit. Shewmake seems like a bust. Schuster is doing well and should probably be a rotation mainstay. Cusick has yet to throw more than 50 innings, so there really isn't any relevant data for him.

So far, AA's 1st round picks seem like they have around a 50% hit rate. I'd say that is better than average. Especially considering the respective picks those guys were selected at.

In general, I agree with you but saying Schuster should "probably" be a rotation mainstay at the MLB level when he gets there is a bit rich. He has a long way to go.
 
Last edited:
In general, I agree with you but saying Schuster should "probably" be a rotation mainstay at the MLB level when he gets there is a bit rich. He has a long way to go.

Maybe, a lot can happen, though scouting reports are generally pretty confident in his abilities to at least be a back of the rotation pitcher.
 
A data guy has Adam Maier #84 overall. Here's the write up: REPORT: Maier throws what is easily the best breaking ball in the draft, and possibly the best pitch I've ever seen in the college ball-tracking era. It's a filthy, low-80s sweeping curve that drops 45" and sweeps 21". He throws it as hard as 85, and it ranges from 80–84, it's a 70-grade pitch that we didn't get to see much of because of his injury, but it's elite. His fastball plays off of the sweeper with 40" of horizontal separation thanks to 19" of run on the sinker that he can touch 95 with, it sat in the low-90s and averaged out at 91.6 mph. It's a 60-grade pitch and exactly what you'd want to throw given the arm slot. There's really nothing you could do to improve Maier's sweeper/sinker combination from a pitch design point-of-view, they're about as optimized as it gets. He's shown a mid-80s gyro slider that's shape is mostly downward, and it flashes a 55. His change has the potential to be good with the ideal shape, just fringy feel and limited use. After missing bats and filling up the zone with 60 stuff in his first three starts, Maier went down with an elbow injury and missed the rest of the injury. Fortunately for him he looked really good on the Cape, and teams have a large enough sample of data on him across both leagues to draw conclusions.
 
A data guy has Adam Maier #84 overall. Here's the write up: REPORT: Maier throws what is easily the best breaking ball in the draft, and possibly the best pitch I've ever seen in the college ball-tracking era. It's a filthy, low-80s sweeping curve that drops 45" and sweeps 21". He throws it as hard as 85, and it ranges from 80–84, it's a 70-grade pitch that we didn't get to see much of because of his injury, but it's elite. His fastball plays off of the sweeper with 40" of horizontal separation thanks to 19" of run on the sinker that he can touch 95 with, it sat in the low-90s and averaged out at 91.6 mph. It's a 60-grade pitch and exactly what you'd want to throw given the arm slot. There's really nothing you could do to improve Maier's sweeper/sinker combination from a pitch design point-of-view, they're about as optimized as it gets. He's shown a mid-80s gyro slider that's shape is mostly downward, and it flashes a 55. His change has the potential to be good with the ideal shape, just fringy feel and limited use. After missing bats and filling up the zone with 60 stuff in his first three starts, Maier went down with an elbow injury and missed the rest of the injury. Fortunately for him he looked really good on the Cape, and teams have a large enough sample of data on him across both leagues to draw conclusions.

Love an elite breaking ball.
 

Would imagine he's an overslot based on this:

Keller was projected to go in the 3rd-to-6th round range, and declined some offers in the earlier rounds "because the money wasn't there."

For top high school players with plans to play in college (Keller had signed with Old Dominion), the decision of whether or not to turn pro usually comes down to whether teams want to meet a player’s price for a signing bonus.

"The Braves were able to make up a really good number as a pitcher for me to take, and I felt like that was the best opportunity for me," said Keller, a right-handed pitcher/shortstop with a fastball that’s consistently around 93-94 mph and has touched 96.
 
Would imagine he's an overslot based on this:

Keller was projected to go in the 3rd-to-6th round range, and declined some offers in the earlier rounds "because the money wasn't there."

For top high school players with plans to play in college (Keller had signed with Old Dominion), the decision of whether or not to turn pro usually comes down to whether teams want to meet a player’s price for a signing bonus.

"The Braves were able to make up a really good number as a pitcher for me to take, and I felt like that was the best opportunity for me," said Keller, a right-handed pitcher/shortstop with a fastball that’s consistently around 93-94 mph and has touched 96.

Kinda expect Murphy, Ritchie, Phillips, and Keller to all be over slot - with the amounts potentially split fairly evenly between them so that they'll all sign. McCabe, Franks, Acton, and Keck are probably all under slot guys, meaning any additional money can possibly be spent if there's someone they really like that slips to them today. If those numbers work out and there's no overage signing the guys taken in rounds 1-10, there should be an additional $600K or so to splurge on someone - that's 3rd round money.
 
Back
Top