2022 Trade Deadline

jpack1 said:
Basically look at the Olsen deal and add a true premium prospect to it. That’s what Soto is worth. 70-100 mm surplus value. If they stupidly attach Corbin to it it’s 50-80 mm surplus. Then you are right back to similar package as Olsen trade.
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I think this is a pretty good way to explain it.

That premium prospect carries a ton of value in the modern sport.
 
Enscheff said:
He could be 19 and that wouldn’t change the fact he’s only controlled for 2.5 years, and will earn something like $25M in 2023 and $30M in 2024.

Yes, teams put a premium on star players that goes beyond typical dollar/win calculations, but this narrative that Soto is somehow worth half of a contending lineup is nonsense. For one, no such prospect package exists in the sport, and no contender would gut their MLB roster to add a single player.
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I'm not saying that tweet was realistic. I'm just saying that I don't think standard WAR valuation chart's are gonna apply on this one. I wouldn't be surprised to see him bring back 100+ million in FV in a trade, unless they try to attach Corbin to him. But for the life of me, I can't imagine why you be willing to shell out 400+ million to keep Soto and
then try to tank his trade value by attaching Corbin to him. You were gonna be stuck with Corbin if you extended Soto anyways. What exactly has changed?
 
Carp said:
I know he's sucks on defense, but you can always DH him. And WAR doesn't seem to properly value the DH, imo. 23 year old truly elite hitters rarely become available in a trade, so I don't think teams will be using the standard reason this one.
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While that might be true I don't think he sees significant DH time right now.
 
If Soto is traded I think it is in the off-season. As mentioned, I don’t think any team really has the prospect capital to hand out right now. I could see it being a 3 team or even 4 team deal to make the trade work.
 
Will be fascinating to see where Soto ends up. The more I watch the kid play, the more I like him. In fact, the only thing I don't like is that he's in the NL East, and Will Smith has to face him. That stare down he shows make him look fearless and smart.

The only place out of our division I won't want to see him is LA or St. Louis....or Boston. I hope he ends up on a contender so he doesn't end up like Trout.
 
mossy said:
Will be fascinating to see where Soto ends up. The more I watch the kid play, the more I like him. In fact, the only thing I don't like is that he's in the NL East, and Will Smith has to face him. That stare down he shows make him look fearless and smart.

The only place out of our division I won't want to see him is LA or St. Louis....or Boston. I hope he ends up on a contender so he doesn't end up like Trout.
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How does that stare down make him look fearless and smart? More like a giant douche... also the crotch grabbing... come on. I believe the Nats trade him when I see it... and if it happens I doubt it happens at the deadline.
 
Enscheff said:
See that’s just silly. There’s no way any team could give up half of a starting lineup for 1 guy. This narrative that Soto is going to cost some insane package is nonsense, doubly so if they attach Corbin to him.

Most likely it will be something like a FV 60 guy (there are no prospects higher than that currently in the sport), a couple 50s, and filler. That’s a Top 10 overall guy, a couple Top 100 guys, and then some lottery ticket fillers.

Packages bigger than that simply don’t exist, and no contender is going to tear apart their MLB roster just to get 1 player. Futher, why would the Nats want anyone that’s MLB ready when they won’t be ready to contend for at least 2-3 more seasons, thus wasting the value of guys like Harris and Strider?
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I tend to even question who will be willing to even offer your package of a Top 10, a couple Top 100s, and filler AND pay what it's going to take to extend him on top of that. While Soto has plenty of surplus value for the next couple of seasons, that value completely dries up when you have to give him half a billion dollars - even if you're a team in a market where you're capable of consistently playing at the upper levels of the luxury tax penalties you're going to need to surround him with prospects like that if your goal is to win a championship because you're going to have to pay some of your other core pieces substantial salaries as well.

I think the teams that just might be in play for Soto if/when he reaches free-agency are all the darkhorses with deep farm systems today - someone like Baltimore that has pieces like Rutschman, Mountcastle, and Hays already in place and kids like Rodriguez, Henderson, Cowser, Hall, Kjerstad, Westburg, and Holliday ready to establish themselves when the front office splurges on Soto's salary.
 
Also, coaching staff is usually a bunch of old overweight guys with years of health issues and injuries from decades of baseball.
 
Gonna be a very slow week re: Braves. So a new game in mind around the Soto situation/speculation and dreams. Lots of suggested trade packages from posters and bloggers alike so just to roll along.
What are your suggestions/words for AA/or just tell me to go away. What kind of package would it take for Acuna to be moved. Consider his contract. Consider Braves needs. Consider prospect situation.
Consider anything you choose but what and who would be a return considered acceptable to Braves fans?
 
PawPawMaxwell said:
Gonna be a very slow week re: Braves. So a new game in mind around the Soto situation/speculation and dreams. Lots of suggested trade packages from posters and bloggers alike so just to roll along.
What are your suggestions/words for AA/or just tell me to go away. What kind of package would it take for Acuna to be moved. Consider his contract. Consider Braves needs. Consider prospect situation.
Consider anything you choose but what and who would be a return considered acceptable to Braves fans?
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Any discussions surrounding the two are as apples and oranges as they come, and simply a waste of time.
 
clvclv said:
Any discussions surrounding the two are as apples and oranges as they come, and simply a waste of time.
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Pretty much what kind of response I would expect from you and the fact is that everything you put up must waste time since you have nothing to sell and hours to waste..
 
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